Chicago Daily Tribune Newspaper, January 14, 1878, Page 1

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PORTER & KENNEDY, GENERAT AGENTS, FOR RENT. DESIRABLE OFFICES IN THE TRIBUNE BULLDING TO RENT. WM, 0, DOW, Room 8 Tribune Building, Apply to NUALEN. FAIRBANKS' ' SCALES OF ALL KINDS. FAIRBANK®, MO 113 &118 Lake St., C! ZUENCY, Warde 3 N ireb) iven F00s Who Tiay Bars clalnis saainit the Tirl ank of Chicagu, lII., II:IK 150 saine :ufll u‘P‘l‘\fw::fi Frootiheton wliatuckn. icesiver, with thalleial ooy Wit be-Gnivoa th KT FY s o NO. ). N o mpiruller of the Currsncy. MISCELLANEOUS, TAKE NOTICE. ‘The State. County, Town, City, real tatate 5ad BrsSha probaity toF Lt and Breviocs ‘y"r.l;: :l'h'flnlnll: d‘l‘l‘l“ 1 - ‘:L\.jn Lincola Park asscss: ; Hors Lakeat. e 3113 A T LLEN 3 Coltectop Towa Norta Chicago. CHICAGO, MONDAY JANUARY 14, 1878, IS HELL ETERNAL? General Discussion of the Subject by Chica- go Ministers. Vast Diversity of Opinion Re- garding This Impor- tant Matter,” Dr. Thomas Repudiates the Teachings of Some Older Calvinists. Aund Delivers Himself Fully on the, Doctrine of Election and Reprobation. The Rev.’ Mr. Crafts Indifferent as to Disagreement in Non-Essontials, The Rev. Mr, Gurnoy on Sen- sational Preachers of False Doctrine, Some of {he Ministers Preach the Literal, and Others the Melaphorical, Lake of Fire, The Unlversalists Rejoice at the Weakening of the Orthodox. Prof., Swing Takes as His Toxt the Sweot Uses ot Ad- versity. Tho New Pastor of the New England Churoh —TLook Out for Barth- quakes—Bible-Readings, - LETERNAL PUNISHMENT. DR. TITOMAB. SIODERN DOURT AND MBTHODISM. Laat gvening lu the Centenary Church, corner of Morgan and Monroo streets, the Rov. Dr. ‘Thomas preached on *Modern Doubt and Motuodism,” Tha following Is the text of the scrmon: Is thine heart right. hoatt? o . . 10 1, Kinge, 2., 16, ‘The ndvent of the Baconfan, or the Inductivo, method of philosophy was the beginning of & new ers in human thought. Before that the deduction method had beon largely used, There had been thinking from within,—had a3 my heart (s with thy t bo, giva ma thine hand.-= bLeen formulating laws of thoucht aud prineiple within their own miuds,—sud from those hod boen traveling on to conclusions. Lord Bacon lea the way in another direction—that of beglaniug on the outalde, or by obsorving facts, snd then from these facts forming conolusions. Thie method would paturally lead to a wider opening of the eyes and s closer study of things. This closcr observution of things led to the discovery that many supposed facts were not well founded; and this aizain has led to & sthil cluser Jooking iuto other facta. And thug (¢ s, that, In vur time, sverything Las been as far as possiblo taken out of the realm of mysticism and su- thority,and of simploassent, and subjected totho severest possible scratiny, This peactical metbhod has not stopped short of the whole fleld of re- Hitlous thoorics, and secins ftant n dolug hare what It bas sought to do In overything else.— that is, rule out everytbing that Is found to be false. Of course, the inductive methad is ot suited to all forms of religlous fuvestigations, but, having used It g0 fully, the asme talent comea tothe deductlve mothods with a closer nsight and with severor exactlons. The practi- cul result of thils, in matters of religlon, is & @eneral unscttling of bellef fu many old theo- ries that had long remained to many minds un. questioned; and, as aresuls of this, muchdoubt und not a lfitle unbellet, All this is ouly another way of stating or srrlving me conclusion of doubt arlsiug from thi v and powerful mental realization of our thinea that was alluded to on last Bunda evening. In that discourso [ imoro than intl- mated that a too severe relicious doginatism was the cause of much of the doubt of our day, —that the ind ol man had been asked in the name of religlon to belleve too much, had been asked to belivya what {t could not nelleve, and, moreover, what was not true, and that in some thiuge tho doubters were right and tho = dogmatists wrong, Aud 1 also cladmed thut v was _wot religlon, a4 such, that men doubted or wanted to doubt ) but certaln mun-made theories about religions and [ pleaded for a more direct and uawarhl‘ wirning of the religious forves of our times upon character and life, That discourso was necessarily lucomplets, and bad, perhaps, to leave some minds in suspense. | now wish to show more cxplicitly what was mesnt; and to show further wherefo Methodism (s not resvon- sidle for this modern bellef, and that Method- Ism has not put upon the mind of man the ter- is, tolerant in atters of belle, 31 turns its vast power upun practical Godliness. ‘Three things were inore particalarly -lmumvd: The doctrines of Hell, of Eloction und lteproha. tion, snd the Bible. Let us Jook at the two first nuw, and reserve (or another hour the dis: cussion of modern doubt and the Blble. And, first n reference to Hell. Along with thie beliet of & personsl fmmortailty would nat. urally arisca belief that there would bo s dit- ferenco In the other world, as well us In this, hetwesn the good and the bad. Aud heuce, whers & bellel {n Limortality has obtalned, & bellet n some form of futurs puulshiment has also found & place, and thus in'sume forn en- ters into all religions. The ductriue of {nture punishment or suffering for sin ts undoubtedly faught in the Bible, and the roasouof wan is ready to accept this, and au swakened con- ulcncuhwuls to secoud and futensify this, bug reasun aud consclence niust revolt ageinst the terrible anapes wad coloriuge that tils doc- trine has taken under s too scvere sud material religious dogmatism. Let me givea few ex- smples of what has been taught on this subject 1u the vame of Curistianity. Jeremy Taylor, in Lis discoursa on *'[ha Pafus of Hell.” cayss We are amazed at the Inhumanity of Phalaris, who rossted men {n ble brasen bull; this was joy in respect of tuat fire of hell which penetrates ihe very entrails witbout consuming them. The bodies of thy dswued shall Le crowded together i bell Mke grapes 1o & wine-press, which press one an- other til} they burst, Every distinct sense sud organ ahall be asasiled with owa sppropriate sad moet exquisite sutiering. casscd by & dreadful tempest, they thewselves torn ssander by an ang: a . #0 1bat 10 1ok 1nto any golf woul be more tolerable thas to stand for & momaens i these terrors, Jouvatban Edwards says: ‘The world will probably be converted Into a Groat Laka or auld giobe Of 1o, —a vast ocenn_of fire, —In which the wicked ahall be overwhaimed, which shall always ba in tempeat, in which they #hnli hie tonsed to and fro, Liaving norest dey or night, vant wavea or billows of fire continaally toiliug nvee their heads, of which they shall for- ever be fnll of & quick sense within and withonty their hears, their eyes, their tongaes, thelr Lunda, thelf foel, thelr foins, and thelr vitala shall forever be foll of & glowing, melting f firree enongh to melt the vary rackn and elements And alen, they ahall eternalfy be fall of the most anfck and livaly senss to fecl the tormente: not for one minute, nor forone day, nor for one ago. nor for two nges, nor for ten “thansand millions of 8zck, ana aftor another, but for ever and ever, and nover to be delivered, Mr. 8purgeon, In his sermon on the resurrec- Mon, sayn: When thon diest thysoal will be tormented lone; that will be Ifell for it; but at the Day of Judgment, thy body will Join thy sonl and ihen thou wirt fiave twin Jelie; thy son) eweating nlmr- of hlowd and thy body suffused with sxony. in fiegee fire, exnctly ke thal whicl we havo on earth, thy body will lio, ahentos-like, forsver uycon- sumed, 811 thy veina tuade tor tie fent of pain 1o travel ou, every nerve a atring on which the devil ahall forever piay hisdiubolical tane of Ielt's unut- terable lament. The Rev. Dr. Willlsm Davidson, fn & sermon before the stadents of the United’ Presbyterian Theologieal Beminary of Xena, ()., says: It in an nnapeakably terrible tang, any ono— oven n youtb or & heathen—to be insl, Not ia thla all 1o thosn who snfler leaet, 1t I not only the tar of 811 and a horrible lake of ever-birning fice, but there see Anrvists objects filing very scnn and overy faculty: and thero aro horrible engines and tnalruinents of tortnre, Ture are the chatnn of dnrxners, thick, heavy. hard, snd smothering as the wloom of hiank and hlack despaie~chalng atrong an the corda of Omntpotence, hiot aa the eriaping Hlaniun of venvennce. indesirietinla and elornal ae sfitice. | With chalua like tiene, every iran-link bhitrning fnto the Iv‘ml'hmg heart, is hound each doomed, damned pdul, on s bed of hnrning marl, under an tron roof, riven with tempests and drip. ving with torments of an unuenchinble fire, And then, after carrving thisawlul plctureinto still further defall, he saya: Upon such an assombly . , . fod eannot Took but witls stter destortation. Itie wratl; shall €otno up i iln face. ~ ilis faca whall be red with anger. e will whet Mis glittering sword, and Hls lond atinll take hold on vengaance, 1le ahall un- wenl all Hie fountains and ponr ont 1 tumbting catancts of vengesn 1y oye ehall “not pity them. nocshall lje sonl spara” for thelr crying. The day of veugeance {n in i heart, and it is what [lfa heart fa seton. e will delight in it e this and more Jo the Beriptures declars; and that preaclier who heeltates to pro- cluiny Jt ha foreaworn Lifs soul and In o tralior to his trust. And all ¢his shall be forever. ‘These quutationd hiave been from Protestant nuthors, In & ook written Ju this contury In England for children by the Rev, J. Furniss we may ste how tho Rumaniats put the case: The fourth dungeon {s the bnllln{ kettle, Lis- ten: there ls a suund like that of & kettle botling. Is 1t really a kettle which {s bolling? No, Then what 1 1t? Hear what It is: The biood [s ‘boiling in thn ecalded veins of that boy ; the beain (s boll- ing and bubbling in his hoad; the marrutw Is holling in is bones. The Al 0 the red-hot screamn to come out Itaelf abiout In the Bre the roof of tho oven. i 1t beata iis hoad against It stampa its littic feet upon tho flour of the oven. o this cuild God was very good. Vary likely God saw that this child would get worse and worne, and wonld pever repent, and 0 it woald have to be punished much worse in Hell. S0 God in Ilie mercy eatted Il out of the wworid in s eariy ehldhood, Now, these crude material, overdrawn, and even hiuphcmmu representations of GGod and the naturc of future punishment have been taught in the name of relizion, aud taught not only vears szo by Jeremy Taylur and others, but taught by living diviies in our own any, Is it any wonder that the thinking ninds of this age rise up and repudiate such teachings? Buch Ideas ddinhonor God und degrade the very thouglit of justice, not to say increy, . They arc an {nsult to reasou, and I honor men when'they rise up'nnd stamp them Into the very carth, To any longer Inslst unun them {s simply to drive men into fnfidelity and into atheism, Lot us now look 8 moment at the other doc- trines mentioned, that of Election and Repro- batlon, Including, of course, the doctrine of God's Decrees. This system, as it scems to me, an absolute fatalisin, makes God the suthor of sin, and doons unnumbered millluna to au endless Hell, who never were redecined, and '7‘}:;" by;no neun;mlv&:ul;ll hh“g Im;n u':'m. nehes ‘al} the haathen have bcen’nflusty.‘g%’mnl‘fflrkhow dillgent ther have beew to framethelrlives according to the light of Nature and the law of the religion they Emu”' —that none but those protessing the Christinn roligion can be saved. Just think of It: notless than scven or eight hundred milllons of souls damued overy generation. Two-thirds of our race seat to Hell cvory thirty years: snd sent thers without Any posslble” fault of thelr own,~slinply because they were born heathen. Is it any wonder that men doubt theao thingsd It {8 because they Jove " and the Biblo that they do doubt the a1 honor them for it. And thers will, rof this kind of doubt before thereis * fou loug bave thess terriblo dogmas heen pon God, aud the Bible, and Chiristianity. are doomed by the Iluln of the nineteenth (¥itury todle. They may remalu In books, but they canuot long bo held as a vital bellef by upen- visionod minds. There Is & doctrine of Eiection, ana of Reprobation, und of Decrees that wil] stand, but fts old and scvers forms tust pasy away, You may nurse them never so tenderly, —bring them io and wrap thom up In a blanket, and even hug them to your bosomd,~but the sick lnmb will never see the June-tinie of our world, Itmustdio. Itoughttudle, [twesa mistuke that it was ever born. The_stateinents concerning Holl that 1 have given I haye selected frow among the coursest and hardest. 1In rofercuce to the Ualvanistle teachiogs, I have simply Indicated thoe doctrines tbat uro taught. Now,'I say that those tesch- Ings ara at the bottom of much of our modern disbellel, and I say that In this unbelet tho doubters aro rizht and the dogmatlsts are wroug. Idonot charge the Calviuists or auy of the churches with holdiug In general now to these gross matorislistic ylews of Hell, and you same, #8 Lhave shown, do: but suppuse thers bas been a chunge,—a meditication in the bellet of the churches un the sub f thatle ad- mitted, the admission concedes all that 1 have clatined,—that an cxcessive dogmatisin has ne- cessitated unbelief; and that by this concesslon of modification tho doubters are admitted to havo been right and the dogmatists wrong. And it thero has been 8 change {n the boliel of the churches on this subject, why do these or- thodox churches cry out” agaiust thoso clergy- men who have the falrneas and _candor to stand up In the pulpit and say sel The Advance of thls week, In & cominent oo iny sermon_ of last Bunday onnlnq. ys: ** It wass general gloriti. cation of skeptict and was outrageously un- falr In its ropresentation of evangelical belfefs." Now, if religion teachcs auviling, It teaches bounesty and truthfulness; and the church aud ministry should be Lunest and truthful o their treatmeut of skeptics, 81 wellas in other things. This {8 wnat have sought tu do and to be. The .dwnce also casts sneer &t thc ‘ridiculous alra of tne rrunnecnu martyrdom of thess men who stay 1 eyangelical pulpits to preach unerangelical doctrines,” “That I8 an unkind and whotl Emmnoun assumption vn the part of that rood, ut mistaken, editor. Such men ara not secking martyrdom at all; thoy aresceking truth, and for ita sako are willing to hear such -unkind words even from thelr brethren. Moreover, the Advance can ussure i1 readers that In my case there is no dangur of near martyrdom. It was wot 50 “decreed.” It was * furcorduined from all eternity’ that I shouldstand {n a Methodist and not (o a Calvinistic pulpit. And so of the doctrine of Election aud Reprobation. The Calyinlsts cither do or they do not hold these doctrines as formerly taught, and as they stand vow {o thelr books. 1f they do hold them us they ware formerly held, and as they are now found in thelr books, then I say that there s iun grouna for uil the doubts and question- ugs that are troudbling our age on those subjects. Tuere is a reason for an unrest and doubt in Bcotland and Brooklyn, aud alt over the couniry, These dogmuas are asking the clergy and peopiv to belfeve what they cau- not believe—and what they ought not to bee lleve. I these dogmnus are ‘beld as they onve were, why are weaccused of befug ** outrageous- unfalr™ in so statlag themi Why should ) Jw Advance be **surpriscd and palned that Beecher has outfageously caricatured the cue- rent orshodox belief 4 1f the current ortho- dux behief oa thoss subjects ts ditferent from the former belief,—it 1t has been modificd. — then the doubters bave been, aud are, justified in saylug they have becu, aud are, right, aud that the doguatists have been wrong. But if these dogmus have beeu molified, 'ny have Prol. 8wing aud others been turved out for not belicving them as they were formerly tauhti 1 am eutirely free to say for mysell thatif o bellel fn all thu dognas of Calvinlam sud jua literal iake ol watertal fire and brimstoys s Decessary to orthoduxy, then I am not urtbo- dox, snd I am glad of it. It such belicls necessary to belng cvaugelical, thenl am evangelical. And Iawm glad of that. Aodif I baliovod that the Biblejmade of Giod such an fu- human monster, thea I would oot believe the Bible. And if [ bellavod thst the over-blessed God was such a monster,—the supposition ls Nlasphemous,—I would never again how my knees in pfager, T won't worshlp Injustices and cruelty, even If thcy come bearing the sacreq name of God, T donot, and cannot, and witl nnt belieye such things, I don’t ask any one el o helieve them, or to worshlp any much a belne. Ruch things Nave too long stood in the way of souls, anid In the way of retiglon, and havedriven and aro driving men {nto darkness and unbelief, . (God knows that [ do not say these things for contmvcn(y. God knows that 1 feel only love for all soufs aud for afl churchies. le knows that I love the truth. And I feel very deeply that vur times need an apen, houest, oittspoken puipit. T never have sud T never can stand be- ore an aullence with s double fave, I feel y the religious doubit and unrest of ud [ helleyu the prople of our sge belleve iIn Uod, and the HBible, and religlon; but they eannot belleve all the terri- ble things that have been taught In these sacred names, [ do not biame the present ministersof the Calyintstic Churchies fur theau things belng In thelr crecdss they were put there long before any of ths aze were burn, 1 do not blame them for betng in those churches. Tdonot blame thelr people,~tnany of the very beat people and ministers in_the whole country are in these church ut do say that, if present belicf of thess churches b actually prown away from tho old standards or doginas, they ahould hasten to say so, and refleve the Bible and - Cheistlanity and the trionbled minds of thousauds from the great shaine that these dogmas put upun them. It they have grown away from these bellefs, wh turn men out of the church for saying sol It they have not chanied, then dun’t nceiise u of being unfalr when we state themn as we #nd thea; and don't blame ten for youbting thein, for they can't help 8. As nresult of these torrible views of Ieil, and of the doctrines of Calviniam, Universstism aroav, and tuok the other extreme that there was fo Jlell at at all, snd that all would be paved: “Fhe process was very casy snd logical, ‘Ihio Calvinists had taught ‘that ‘all for whom Christ died would bu saved; the Univcrasiists slinply took the Bible and proved that Christ dled for all, and lhug had the result that all would be saved. Aud between the two systems of falth 1 should clivose the lutter all the thue, The Universallsts of our day have swung k from the fArst extreme view, and arg generally believers In after-death pualshiment for aln, but clahin that it will be reformatory, and licnce not unending. There is nothing, "so faras 1 can see, In modern Un. versullan to lead men to unbelief} there s it rather that which encourages bellef; and, teaching that punishment must follow ti reesion, its Intluence should be, and In so 8, to promote good Hyess but In holding out the hope of after-death reforinatiou, there s dauger that many will tuke lcenso therefrom to guon fialng aud If that hope Le deluslun, the tistake s tinal,” Nuw, betwoen these two extrema systewns, Calvinism and Universalism, tho one holding that it was never made sible for all to saved, and the uther hotd{ug that all would cer- tainly be finally saved, tween these two cawe Methodisim, with ts docirine of o universal atonement—that God loved the whole world; that Christ died for all; that Hela no re- nrccwr of persons, uud that it every nativn he that fearcth (iod and worketh rightéousness is aecepted | that waw (s w morsl agent, is free Lo seeept or to refect the offers Of tuercy and the meana of grace, apd will be Judged and rewnrd- cd or punishul, accordiug to hts opportunities, and conduct, and character, thus honoring G, diguifying mau, and oxalting both Justice and mercy. Uu the subject of future punishunent thicrs s not one single word in our Articles of Falth, nor in the Apusties' Croed, which we usc o boptisn. The doctrine of the Methodist Chureh, 8a sct lorth in our fnatitutes of theolo. &y, hea exsited the (deaof the easentlal recti- tide and justice of God and of Hix moral gov- ernment over wien; aud has taught that aln was a terriblo thiug, wod that the law of {] had {te pennity, osnd could bot be violated with impuuity; aod that the {ncor- tigibly wicked would sufler futurs und eteruat puntshinent. But, in our teachings, this whole nub{ect of future punishiment s removed eu- tively out of the dowmaln of wrath and viudict- fyeneas fa the Almighty, and Is ptaced wholly on the ground ot the necessities of moral rule, or of_law and order In thc universe. Nooueis sont to lell who bad nut a chanve to gel to Heavan, No one ls saut through splte or vin- dictiveuess. And our Church has generally been lean specilic thun uthers (n poluting out any de- tails of punlshinent, We huve been contented to hold up the dark background of siu and miscry to which it jeads, aud teurfully entreat men to turn from the ways of death, Now, when you conie 1o estimate the lutluences of such toachings upou the fatth of mankind, yon will sce u very great differcoce hiere, We bave put no auch straln tpon the winds of men sa to aak them to buticve that souls are lost who hud no chanco of being saved. We have ncver nsked the world o believe that ail hoathen natfons wore Jost, Aud the nest thue my excellent hrother, Prof. Swing, psints fo theilling o scene of an orthodox Ilell, and with such One rhetorieal nicety and cffect pluces Bocrates und Aurclius and u{l the heatten world {n the quenchless fires, [ wish he would ba thoughtful enough, or falr enough, to state that there sre over 2,000,000 of orthudux Metlodiate in this land who do not believe any such thing, Alimen are resdy to bolleve ia punlshwent or sutfering for sly, buth here aud hereatter,—thers must be strength in law and smvemmnt.—nm\ the only strain Methodisin hus put n‘mn public faith is tesching that pun. istunent la eternul. And tn this ft has not taughs the doctrine In auy such sovere forms. Jolin “Mla{l dld, 10deed, incliny to & belief in amaterial boll-fire, but the vast majority of Methodist preachors have not suared thut falth. Dr. Wheden says Iu & late Quarterly, In reviewing a buok of surmons bearfug iny name, that » W fmagine that the census would he swmall of Americas Methodist preachers wha would accepl Mr. Wealuy's physical views of lell.” The sama writer, and he stands first In wur suthorities, sahl some years o) *We are {uclined to indores the uvpinion that the fHosily lust will be proportio ly us fow us are the crimiuals executed upon ‘the wullows at the preseat d"l" compared to the rust of tha com- munity. They .will be the malefactors of the world, perhaps of the universe,' Our most, noble Dr. Raymond says that he ls cotnpelled to think any cternal existence that God will permit muat’ bo better than no exist- ence. Thus, as a church, we nold firmly by the Justice Of Giod and of moral governmeut, Lut wo do not make Iiim n inerciiess tyrant, but & righteous ruler. We cannot, aa a church, sce our way clear to testh Uniyersalism ; and wa do not dolt. Nor du we fusist [n thuse extrene or physical views of Hell. In thess things 1 am spewking for our Church, and n&gmu nordid [ ®ive Iast Bunday, my own speclal views. All Wwho know sue, and have kivard me speak, or read iy serinons, know, aud my wood brother, Dr. Ryder, knows, that I belleve In future punish- tent; what the outcome will be I don't’ know, 1 will speak on tuls wuother time. Methudlsm has uot taxed the public falth with any such horrible doctrive as Calviuism, It steppud clear out from under that Josd » hun- dred yesrs ago. Methudists have been Armie. uians from the tirst, and hava sutfered no little lmnrcuuon for §t. John Wesley says that in ils day to say, * There goes au Annanum' i ubous the same a8 10 raise the'cry of ‘mad dog.'" A hundred, yes, tifty, years ) t0_be 2 Methodist meaut to suffer persecutlon. But our people beld on their way, and our fathers fought insuy & bard doctrinal battle; and I hon- estly belleve that the Methodist Church has doue nore to save the lacd from nfidolity than sny other body of people, I canpot uow eay what I wanted to on liberal- Ity of Methodism; vor ia It newded, since Elder Jutkine' scrimon was publistied in the Times of Baturdsy. Did you know that he bhas been con- verted! It lswfact. Biucs golug to Aurors he hias become more Nberal than [am, John Wealey made no theolozical opinjous requisite for memversbip in the church, and recoguized no creed but the Apoatles’, yud this only in baptlsw. *Oaecircumstauce,’ 7:- avs, 45 quite peculiar to the people called Metho- dists, that ul the terms upou which uny person may be adinltted [uto thete soclety., They do uwot Jlinpose auy oplulons whatever. ., . . Thevthink sud let shiuk. Ong thing only is required; & real deslrs to save eir souls; , they lay stress on unothiug else.” * 1s there,” he ssks, **any otber swlety in Great Britalo or Ireland, or “fu the world, that is s0 remote from bigotry,—that 1s su truly of a catholie soirit,—s0 ready to admit all persons of a serlous goirit] I kilow of nune. Let any mat show it me that can. Till theu. let no man talk of tho bigotry of the Methodists.” When he was {n bis 85t year he wrote: ** Look atl around you; you caunot be admitted lato the Preabyterians, or Baptists, or Quazers, or any others unless you share the saine opiulons and adhere 3o the same mode of Ionhlgo The Metbodists alone do not insist on your holding this or that ootalon. . . . Ikuow of no relig- luus soclety, sucient or modern, since the dsys of the Apustics, wherein such lberty of cou- sclence t5 allowed. Hereln 1s our glorying, aod @ glorylog pecultar to us.” o 83y aguin, [ have no more right to ob- “were not chisfly sustained ject to a man holiding & different opinfon from me than I have to differ with s man_beenuse he wears A wigand | wear my own hair, UOnr E:m:r-l rutea make but vns condition of mem- Tahip! a desire Lo flee from the wrath tocome, and to be aaved from ain, and toshow this by avolding wrong and dolng right. Our Articles of Falth aeen: indicatory rather thanohligatory, You cannat exclude a miember from the Meth- odint Church for his private oplnlona: sou may excluda him for sowing dissentions, Methodiem lonks to conduct rather than creed. Its great purpose 1a to lead to saving expericuces an'd to pnrity of hoart and life, Universal redemption, the witness of the aplrit, and holiness of heart, are Its yreat themes, With these §t has kindied the life of the nincteenth century, It tolerates differences of ovlalom on many poinis, even In the miniatry, hut it seeks to ilve close tothese t truths (hat enter intolife and Church has never sufTered from & division on doctrines; {t {s tolerant, Jt Lap- tizea by any mode you deairs; it stands not on forms. It sayacomeand go with us, and do 2uod In any way you can. Belleve what yon can and do what you cap. It {a a great siuging, praying, working armny In the Kingdutn of Jesun Christ. The Methollsts never persecuted any one. Thia is the Methodiam to which I helong —the Mcthodism to which I Invite you. Dut, first of mll, 1 invite you to Jesus Chriat amil a good [He, aud then go snd live and work where you think beat, THE REV. W. F, CRAFTS. A PEACEMAKER. The subject of the Hev, W. F. Crafts, pastor of Trinity Methodist Church, last evening, was “ Agreements anid Disagrecments About Hell,” A large vongregation listencd to him, 11fs text was: It s sppointed unto men once to dle, but after thia the judyment. — Hebrews, drs, 27, ‘Tho aubject of thc after-death judgment, he sald, had been thrust upon public attentlon from three different polnts, and o three differ- ent sspecta. Firat, In {ts relations to the Bible prool texts, The word alonfos, which Canon Farrar would translate age-long instead of cternal, was the word used to measure (Jod'’s duration, and slsa the future life of the redeemed, and was the strongest word for continued existeuce which the Greek langusiee afforded. But even with the proposed change, which was ogainst all tho welznt of acholarahin, from rternal to nge- long, signilying vast l»crlmh, the force of the passsze was but littlo dimmed as u warning, sinee eteruity was beyoud our coneeption, and “yast perlods® of punishment wereall we could now take futo our thoughts, Thedoctrine of future punishment was not dependent upon the four words o debate, but upon natura) Inzcr{;nullen of the whole Nerlpture. The most distingulshed and unprejudiced he- lievera in final restoration confessed that it was not a doctrine of revelation * fairly ylelded hy the Interpretation of Nerfotury,' Hut It was held as a doductlon of the urivate reason. Hrars, Star King, snd the Ameriesn Unitarian Hoclety were referred to in this connectlon, OF cours€, no one held, and it was doutitful if any one ever did, the literal meanine of the waril fire, which was to be {nterpreted by the laws of lanuage aas some kind of spiritun] suffering, Certalnly nong conld fall te discover iy the whola Bible a4 well as in Nature thelaw * What- saever o man sowell that shatl he alao Bin waa the sced which Incvitably brought fering. Baying the very least,” it was over. whelmingly and unquesilonabily clear, fo sum- ming up thy relation of this yuestion to the Bible, that no assurance of an after-death reconcllistion was olfered in the Sceriptures tu those who had had a fair probation iu hile, as wus the case with cvery unsaved person in the bousg. But, on the other hand, {t was a5 un. testionably clear, by the lel“nmn{ of all par. ties to this controversy, that the Bible assured all to whum its message cauie that they could, and should at onve, be reconciled to Uod, It was ovident that the objections to eudicss pun- fshment were not o 'lunlli sugzested aud y the head In the Bible, but rather by the emotiunal opergivs of the beart. Muny of the must prominent Qisbe- lievers In cadicss punishunent o Chicago and Boston had ndimnitied, in aubstance, w! raid in Chlcagn Jast Sunday, that they Jeaa fromn Blbia criticlam tika siwple feeliy; But feelluws were a part ofjhumun nature, snd humsn nature was o part of pature, and usture Was the oldzsl testutient ul Giud’s revelation, aud, sherefore, fo harwony with the other vol- wmnes, As Mody Lad shown the Christian world more furcibly thun auy other man the upity of the Oid oud New ‘Testminents, 80 Jnseph.Cook was showing the unity of thesa two with the oldest testutent—the fature of things, Truths of Intultlun awl mspirstlon could not contradict euch uthicr, sioce Gl could not deny Himsell, Speaking of the O1d Testament, Mr. Beecher had turust upon the public potlee the subject of alter-death Judizment in another asject: (ta re- Iatiun to natural Jaw. Mr. Beecher very justly complained of the strauge misrepresentations and missppreheusfons of his famous sermon. He did not proclabin universal salvation, The Airrer, after readlng w correct copy, sad: It 1s certaln ho ‘mads no de. Diul of the ordinary ductrine ol Juture cternal vunishiment.” Tus passazes suphosed Lo as- salrthls doctrine were only s protest agaiust deceased Calvinisin on the suthority of that In- tuitive, and therefurc divine, Juw,—abillt equals responsibllity,—which made It ltiposs]- ble, under the rule of a righteous God, ' that, for the myriads who had veen awept vut of this 1ifo without the light and kuuwiedge ot the divine lfe, there ts reacrved an eternity of sul- fering.”” Hia strong language in deacriblng this goctrine was atinust u quotation from John Wesley, who sald of the dogma denounced, It represcots the ever-blessed God a3 worse than the Denl.” Wesley was attacking s living encmy, while Beeclier was attucking a ghost. The speaker protested, In the name of the fn- tultions of of right, agaiust the Srequent calling up ol thisghiost sa s relpmeum not evan- gelleal faith to-day on thls subject. Let it be understood, sald ‘he, thst Methodlsm, o its standards of doctring, and all evaugelical Clrtstlagity in ita beart-faith, really denlea that any would be condemnca to the perditton of uugodly mens who had nat had ability, and therefore responsivility, to berecoactliedto (fod. There could be no perdition without probation Ina justly-guverned universe, But for thoss who "bud & falr probation, the practical question was not whether jufluite goodness would save the Irresponsible, but rather, * Lord, what wilt Thou have ma to dof" Thers was another aspect of the subject,—ou which he wished most especially Lo emphas its relstions to church folluwship. The fustal Jattou vl Mr, Munger and the refusal of instal- lation to Mr. Merriam had thrust out the ques- ton whether sny one form of Leltel as to the natuee ol future punishmeat shoukd be a test of Christian felluwship. 1The Mothodist discl- phine suld ** No " by omitting entirely suy statemnout of the doctrine fur candidates for bapthan or membership or the miutstry to sovept. It deft the questlon cxactly as the Bible put it,=with_the right of private inter- pretation. The Evaugelical Alllaoce, in its statewent of cssentials of unity, did ot in- clude suy d atic statement o this matter, leuving It with the non-essentlals or liberty. Was uily oue statement of futuve punishments| to be cunsidered one of the eszantlals oo which wo wust {nsist o order to Christian fellowship It was essentinl that one should betieve In ade- sutln puuishment for sf fuce the lves of in- ividuals, citics, sud natlons had ehown, ss VProf. Swing declured in s sermon some months 8gu, that & Heaven wpen to every kind of character was au idea Jull of in- Jury to the putli snd individusl raorality, out of which would conie at lust an age of uabridled vasslop. But this Heaven open Lo every kind of character was no more the universalism of to- Jay than that which Mr. Beeclier denounced aé the Cungregationslism of to-duy. Toe Univer- sallats of to-dsy were as far frun Hallog as the Congregativusllsts from Edwards, Statistics cultected by the fudependent w short time w2o, showed that there were less than half-adozen promiueut Uuniversallst preschiers who aid not belleve tn fusure punisbment, ovly with far-olt ruatoration. But was it also essential to church fellowship that there shoulid be absolute verbal agresment 2310 the nature and durstivn of punishuient! Nuone verbal forw was necessary for this, if, bolding the other furms, they were able without it to achieve within themnseives a truv Christian life, and if they were alsa able, without i, to ! otbers to a trua Christian life. There were and did. Siuce the persvns holds fug theso various views as to tho na. ture and duration of puaishument Jevel- ovped Clristian lives io themselves and in others, be could see no reason why winor dif- fercuces of oplojon -should be acy bLarrier to mutusl work or fellowsip. That all of them belieyed in a Hell terrible enough to keep the augel of punishment, with all bis bealthy re- strulots 10 their Christian work sod thelr uoity in asses certaln future puugbment, secamed to him of fur more plzaiticance aud lwodurteuce than their ditferences. * Al of them agrea ou the text, * It was aopoluted unto maa oace tu & 2 s PR s FIVE CENTS. 88 die/ & 3 aftor thia the jodgment,—sod atter def Judgment by A" perfect fudge, - \V_'&g . agrecment on easentials, he ‘wnnl«l. make tho amount of fire In one's creed frllowship than the amaunt of watee rn. Yes, he sald, he wonld makefire s tesl, but o snother sonto—fire of holy enthiusiasin ol saving men—the test of tests, shice It was the spirit of Christ, withont which we were nono of His, An anicient fable related that a company of apes captured a glow-worm, and, mistaking it for a spark of flre, heaped sticks and twigs abont it, and, by blowing with all their might, strove to set tho wood on fire; but in valn. Those men who made s verbsl duging the test of Christian fellowship made & aimilar inistake. They substitated words for . fire, dogmas for life, What was needed In Christian _fellowship and work was to put fire in place of dogms, enthustasn In Christian Jife n place of confliect uf minor opinions, A man couing n from the country satd toa friond thaty In the enrl' murning, bhe bad boen terrie bly lrluhlmu:d. “Througl the for he saw in tis distance what scemed to be a hideous monster. As it approached, It seemed to be moro and more terrible; but when it catng nearer he found 1t was only o mnan; and, when neacer still, that It wae hinawn brother' Jobiv, 80l the fog of this discusslon nmong evangetlcal bellevers, at first we thoueht Beecher, Farrar, Thor Hyder, ana Bwing were luar’ul MONALers sw fug down for the destruction of Chrlstian f I-L' but, as the fog had slowly clesred away, and we had received reports, and found that all thesa persun Jieved In future punishment of sy we Tod dliscovered that they were, after all, but brotles fu the easentinls of Christian faithe — ror. TIB NEV. W. I, HUNTER preached to an attentive congiegation st At Taul’s Reformed Eptscopal Church yesterdap morning, taking s his theme ** flell," aud the Totlowin as his text: these ahall ¥ away Into everlasting panishe ment; bt the rightevus into life clernal, —Matt., xxv., 40, The reverend gentleman commenced his dls- conrse by remarking that the world was pasaing throush a theological crisls, aud that the cher Ished ereeds anl opintons of the Church wers belng arrafgned before the tribunal of thought. I1e had hesitatedd to enter Into the arena of dis- cussion, and had felt inclincd to let the ( roll on, and continue to preach the Gospel; hut notleing that the vress was tecming with sers mons calculsted to mislead,—sermona from some of the leading minds of the day, which were spread on the breakfast tables of his veople,~he hal been persuaded from his wriginal purpose. In the commencement of the discussion of such a question, he sald, he would first clear away the slde issues which 8wing, Thomas, Beecher, aud Farrar had not conslders el Tluir hiad not denled the existence of Hell, nor hud they sttempted to refuto tho doctrine ol punishmunt alter death, Dr, Ryder, noticing their pusition, had come out In a fetter them 08 co-workers, and can- galnst gong too fast, lest tha Ints should rush forward in defcnse of el Hwing clune to the words *forever and furever," and cunstrucd them in their lltcral senar, and Ryder hatled him as an cMiclent co- worker. ‘Thomus was halicd (n the same spirit, though he belleved In puulshment here and hereafter: and Heecher, leaving out bis adjecs tives and plous sweanng, did not deny the .ex- istoura of tlell or a place of future punishment, | =nd Farrar, coming ito the breach, had only denied that the punishinent was eternal, From all of these upinjons which had heen so liberally given in the i)’“n' n stranger here woulil think that the Devil was dead, and that for Cil- cago there was nio [lell, but because so much attentiun was givon to the Devil he would not have bis hearers imagine for a monent that the old fellow. bad sbandoned his home and was actually among ns. Bo [ar as he had been ablo to digest the Ideas of the genticmen referred to, and combiun them, oll they had taught was that Hell waa not a dugout lake of fire. The contrary had never heen entertained by intelligent peo- le for a moment. He -refuted such teazh. ng as unnecessary. .and contended that Hcil wua 88 much a plice as Heaven was, Ttwas a place of punlshmont, bugnot corporeal, neither hd it abound with hrimstone. He did not tol- erate the tdeu thal flell was the abode of those llttle less than saints, no that this world was the alode of personaies little than aogels, nor could he unless it was demonstrated moro clearly than It had beou, Farrar's ioter- pretation of “eternal ¥ was not his, ut, in the discussion of the aubject, an {daa hatt beeu put forth as the teach- I ol the orthwlox that the heathen and Cathe olics wera to be lost and swent Into Hell, He vould not atand this, und deoied that any such faltb was held. ‘The Bible taught differently, und those who had not the law were a law un- tu themualves, aud were sccountable accordlng 1o their advantages, He belfesed that many o the Leathen would be saved and also many CUathollcs, and rejolced thatthe gates of Hearven were so wide atut yet that nounclean thing could enter therein, The speaker then procueded to consider the resnlt,—the zoud aud evil of the teaching of the divines he had been eonsilering. They all taught thut there was a Hellor placeof puntshnent. but aalde from this admission the goodeflect of their sermons had been aud would be to strike down the ddea of fire as counected with future punlsh- ent Iu the minds of the ignorsat. The evil of what they sald was in the fulitness of thelr speech, anil in their teaching that tiell was not such a bad place after all, which would ea- cuurage siuning aml lopi many with the idea that a1l Hell lackeld wa a comfortable placo of abiwde was more water and goid soclety. #wing thought the future punishient would be eterual, Thomas avolded the question, and Fuarrar contended that it would not be. The latter played with the (ireek word mionios, but the prepondersnce of testimony was against him—the Bible was l&flnl‘ him, and it slons ouglit to ssttle the disputc, which brought the speaker to consider: First, *‘Is the Bible tho word of Godi" and, second, * Does the Blble teach ctornal puulshment!™ There was very lttle dispute on the tirst question, though Thomnas was not sure of the Bible's tnspiration. He belleved that sll that was good was the word o! (ud=—Bunyan'as Plgrim’s Progress, and Wesley's good old hywns, and sll good books. Al Ly claimed for the Bibfe was that 1t was - fullible, and could not be broken down, and, having withstood the batteriug-ram ot intidelity, it was the divine anchor and hobo of the worl It tauglit the doctrine of eternal puniebment inferentially and directly., Experience taught that the violation of a!l law was punished, but the doubter insisted that to pualsh was incom- patible with Divine guoducss. The misery to which tiod's peuple wera aubjected in the world was not regurded us incompatiple with sils goaduesy, and he did oot believe it ever would be, and [oasmuch as I8 was not here, why should it wbe lhereafterd The Scripiures taught that we could saved, and marked out the ways and weans, and tnst Christ was to refirm uutil all His enemies were under His feet, aud then would come the end,—the taklog down of the medistortal ap- varatus aud the ressurcectlon, after which toero would be no salvation. ‘I'skiog the sdmissiun uf Beechier, that the wicked ure to go to Hell, how were they to escape sfter sulvation was cut offt T tiod was to come to thelr rellef then, why did He not coipumence this Divine gooduesa at the other cud? Were they to go to Hell aud aod then be’ lifted to Heavenl & La dlell juat in leaven, aud thiose wlio taught that there was for the wicked entir ulbllation wers false teachers. If “wterual " mcant a space of time, as Farrar taugnt, and the word wus so {nterpreted as ap- plied to Hell, why siot also soply it to Heaven i the sawe way, aud strike directly at tho foundstivu of vur bellef fa Gud! No voe could stand {n the pwipit and take auy such posittonl * Eteenal " meant furever, atud our punisnmeot would be eteppal! Hell was not & world of wue,~3 Mmere cuwflurtable winter quarierd.— bus a plice for future punistunent—oternal punishment. Were the thieves, D. D. 8pencer and Boss Tweed, to be adiitted to the socicty uf tho blessed without repentancei Nol ‘Those that believed on God should ba save and thoss that did ot should be damued, s dawned forover! 1t be should wake up eternity and Aud sowe vew scacwme for the sal- vatlon of tha world, he should be astonisked, but glad il adl were lhelcg{ saved. God was fove, yet there was 0o royal road to repeatance except through faith, aud as Christ, the boy of (?uf , Was the theme of the Aposties, e should be our theme. g 1n couclusion, the speaker said that thoss who deuded the doctrive of eternal puslshment had 1o explain the incompatibility of tisery bherw with “misery hereafter, the wesniug of the scheme of redeinptivn, sud wby God had oot already cowa to us sad lUfted us from our soue- rows. lu s word, they should have less of “thus say 1," aod wore of *thus says God " We should stand by tbe Bible, aad {f Dirne Oiunipotence was 20 save the world aventuelis