Chicago Daily Tribune Newspaper, November 30, 1877, Page 1

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N North - German - Lloyd, Toa steamers of this Company wil) sail aver, a7 from Broimen 1o, 10000l KRInd siraoet, JoMoNEn: Jate ol Rasago—From York o Bouthampton, ol W, BLADGS, St et 824 pasasge apply Lo OELIICHS & COm 3Vowling Urcen, New York. chut.Weumru Steamship Live. From New York to Bristol (England) direct, ARRAGON, b, LORMWALL Wi atiig e oy, Dee- 4 . Cabla pasage, 850, ?‘;xb 1y &M"‘T‘gm.‘g':‘..‘.‘:::mfi“.i B! UITE 47 Clarkat.. Alichisen Canton) Jarons ** OUTLERY, B O BN S Bodgersd Pookat “ z‘(nlve:.- [‘IAIOII. zad also blb‘“‘%‘m . Gstes, 3 M K EY'S, 88 M e = IR L 0o Tt it . SPECIAL NOTIO REAL NOTROS oo UOW TG TELL GRNUINE WLORIDA : - WATER. Toe tru Um.upm“. °§'{‘$-xfifl always comos with & w0, ac $o il pauipnics are {hy N Ty Py Dew Yok waiermarked, or stamped o Al Hold 8 [eaf up 1o the light, aud Do ot by é{ y ittle pers S0IDATERL etters, £rauluc you willaco the Soove words, ¢ oy ot lere; bochlieTit o the mbl':’: e very ug 4 \be ight you canach tai 4 wop roasnbANKS' §TAN ' SCALES 231&113 Lake St Chlcaga, Bocarclultobuy only the Geasios, Away at the Election Dead-Lock. Adjournment until To-Day ‘Without Reaching Con. clusive Action. An Offer by the Republicans to Arrange a Schedule of Time, - It Is Bejeoted by the Demoorats, Greatly to Their Sub- gequent Regret, Kellogg Still Ahend, with a Pros- peet of Ultimate Buc- (71N Outline .of the President's Views on the Leading Financial Questions. Opposed to Resumption Repeal, but Favorablo to a Moditied Silver Bill. Harlan's Nomination Confirmed, and & Motion to Reconsider Now Pending. WILL FIGHT IT OUT. THUAT APFEARS TO DB TIB DETBRMINATION OF REPUDLICAN BENATORS, Speciat Dispateh to The Chicago Tribune. ‘Wasnmarox, D: C., Nov. 20.—There was an- other day of frultless taik in the Senate. Both parties met in caucus this morning for the pur- ‘pose of coming to some arrangement, {f possi- ble, na to the time when a vote should be taken in the cases of Kellogg, Butler, and Eustis. Tho Republicans had submitted to the Democratas proposition that a vote should be taken on Kel- loge to-morrow at & o'clock, on Butler at 6, and on Eustis at 8. This proposition belng submit- ted to the Democratie cancus, n very great dl- versity of oplalon was immediately developad. ‘The majority of the Democrats were' disposed to accopt the proposition in zood falth, save that ‘ some desired to have {t modificd so that all three shouid by c BWORN IN AT ONCH, or at leaat that an arrangement shanld be made that whichever tho Benate should decido wera entitled to theso threo seats sliould be sworn in atonce, But Ben HIl, Bavard, Baulsbury, Mc- Donald, and a few others opposed the propost: tion, Ben Hill declared that Kellogz was pere sonally oifousive to him, and ho desired to Lnve the wearisome, foolish conteat of last week cone- tinued, Bayart suspected a cat fn'the meal- tub, and thought there was somo trick fn the proposition. It was suggested, In opposition ta both Bayard and Hiil, that unless this proposl- tlon should be accepted it might happen that Butler would not be seated. The Democrats have G APPREIENSIONS OF JUDGM DAVIS' VOTE, and if he should be opposed to them, even If Conover and Patterson voted for Butler, the Senate would be tied. Bul no decision was reachod in elther caucus, and wearisome dobato agaln began, Befors adjournment was had, it bo:ame apparent that the Dewmocrats regretted thelr refusal to aceept tho Republican proposi- tion, This information was conveyed to the Republicans, wheu it was dlscovered that Ed- munds could no lonrer induco tho Republicans to agreo to the original proposition rlhu Democrats lost thelr opportunity, and "the ‘whole subject Is AGAIN AT 8HA. The debato was principally confined to Re- turning-Board questions and to tho Hamburz massacre. Ben Hill returned to his atrack of yesterday, and while assuming to bo a chivalrio Bouthern ‘gentleman, continucd to speak of Butlor as s descendant of Perry and Marfon, and of Kellogg as “that man.’ A Borator in private conversation stated the fallacy of Lilll's position tnan oplgrammatic way, Hoar eaid: #The fssue 18 not what blood is in Butler's velos, but what 1s tpon his hands." l Gov. Palmer's connectfon with the Loutsiana affair was again brought to public notice. Tha Democrats had charged that the new evidenca which they wished to produce in the Louisiana case was that of ; SOMMN OFFICIAL OF TIIR LETURNING NOARD, « who claims to have been & witness of tha alleged fraudulent manipulation of tho Vernon Parlsh retums. Even If this was truc, tho cotire matter was jrrclovant to tho question of seating Kellogg, for the reason that the mem- ber from Vernon Parish, whose electlon was claimed to bave been vold, was & Democrat, and was not present fn tho Kellogr Legisloture at its orgunization orat the time whon Kellogg was elocted, and had hio been woutd have voted ogalust Kellogg. 1n no sense, thercfors, coutd the legality of tho clection of this member have affected Kellogg's election, Theso facts showed T8 STALLOWNESS OF THE PRETRXT ot the desire for justico, and demonstrated the fact that the Democrats only desire delay. The point was made by the Republicans that these Returning-Board clerks might be actusted by & desire of. galn, as Gov. Pslmer sald that the famous Littlefiold was. McDonald, of Io- dlans, indignantly dealed that Palmer madosny such statoment. Ko waa soon alter referred to tho record, where Palmer sald these wordss 1 bad o my mind the oplnivon that Tilde, it elected, would give him (Littlefleld) & place somewhere outalde of Loulsians, somswhere in tho North. 1 bad a kind of geucral idearthat ho might be put fn somewhere, sud that he would bo rewarded in this way." . A FEATORN OF TUN DAY was Conkling's arraigument of the Democrsts for\thelr inconsistency. Two days sgo they 'were opposiog an investigation of Butler before he waa scated, on the ground that delay of that sort was an encroachment upon the rights of & soverelgn State. To-day they aro auxious to exsmine Kellogg on matters eotirely fmmaterial to his right to a eeat, . ‘The dcbate upon the Hamburg massacre de- veloped no new features. It consisted larzely of criminstion and recrimination, and untortu- nately is to be continued indefluitely, for f¢ Iy said thet Senator Patterson has a four-hours ‘writicn specch to deliver upon this znd other ques £0-IOrFOW. Iu the Ropublicsn caucus this morning Con- over (s represented as having sunounced bis o+ teation to be loyal to the Republican party, and ta vote with them in every instance, BXUXPT FOR THE S¥ATIXG OF BUTLER. Ho suggested to the Republicans that if But- ler was not scated & much more objectionably maa would'come in the person pf Wade Hamp. CHICAGO, FRIDAY. NOVEMBER 30, 1877. ton. Como eer said that he ehould certslnly vote for K oMogg, itis 1 stimated thatthe conteated olection cascs ar 4 {ikely to ba settled by the swearing in at one timo of Butler, Kellog, and Eustls. The " tepublicans to-uight, however, eay that tho Eut 43 caso is by no means sa clear a8 haa been ré) gescnted. E RUBTIS' CASE. fome Democrate_are Leginning to doubt the strength of tho Eustls case. ‘The truth s, Yastis has a weak case. The trouble is, he was not elected. The House voted for him, but the Benate refusea to go into juint convention, and passed n resolution declaring Pinchback to by the rightful 8enator-clect, Bomo of the 8ena- tors, 1n thelr Individual capacity, voted for Euslis, hut_tho State Senato as such took no part In his clection. An cffort was mada to In- dure Euatls to take another election last #pring from the consolidated Leglelature, but he de- c/dned, preferring to bave the Wheeler compro- rolse to fall bhack upon than the Hayes Com- *mission, Ho thought he was sure of the atd of Wheeler ond Mr, ‘Tlosr. He will have neither, THR SENATR DERATE. To the Western Associated Press. ‘Wasnixaton, D. C., Nov, 2J,—Iu the Benate, tmmediately aftor the reading of tho Juurnal, objection being offered to any new busincas, consfderntion was resumed of the resolution for the adinission of Willimn Pltt Kelloge as Senn- tor froin Loulsisna for olx years from March 4, 1877, the pendlog quesifon bejug oo the amemndment of Mr. Baulabury to' commit the wholg aubject to the Committee on Privileges and Electiona, with [nstructions to take testi- mony upon certain charges of the comalicity of Gov. Kellogg with the Returning Board in frauds for the purposc of having himself elected to tho Bevate, A long discussion followed. The Democrats chargod that they had witnesses ready to prove conclusively that Gov. Kellogg was In compiici- ty with tne Returalng Board in frauds to elect hlmself ta the Senate. ‘The Republicana alleged tbat this delay to take testtmony was asked for simply to et other cascs shead of tho Kollogg case. = . The rules of the Benate and Gen. M. C. But- ler wero prominent subjects in the discusslot. Patterson sald that, In Edgeficld_ County, an at- tempt was made to get up Ku-Klux rafds agalnst the colored people, and the inan who put it down and sald, ** You shall not make Lhese talds,” was his friend, M. C. Butler. {Ap- plause in thoe gallerien.] The Vico-President gave notico that on a rogetition of this offcnsa ho would promptly order the galleries to bo cleared, Mr. Patterson, resuming, sald that thero had never been a murder 1a Mgauald County for political purposes, M.r. Cameron (Wis.) sald Senator Patterson did not know much nbout the geography of Soath Carolina or where the rlots occurred, as he had been absont from the Btato some time. i Mr. Patterson—I have been thers sinco you ave. Cameron—Well, you did not stay long. ‘Without action ‘upon tho nmendment, the Benate went into exccutive sesslon, and, when 1l doors were reopened, adjourncd. WILL PUSIHL TIBE KELLOGO CASE, The Republican Ecnators In caucus to-day unanimously agreed to press the Kellogg case toa final vote, It was also decided that imine. diately after the Kelloge case Is disposed of tho Butler case bo taken up for fnal actiun. Conover to-day cxplicitly stated that he inteods to vote for seating Kellogg. Pattersun was not ot the caucus. EELLOOG'S DENIAL. WasmiNaTON, Nov. 20.—Gov. Kellozg,in a letter toSenator Wadleigh, pronounces abso- lutely untruc any allegations or charge cou- tained {n the followink extract from the spocch of Scnator Hill: “Judge Spofford has told me ho has recently learned that Gov. Kellogg came In by a sldo door and Inslated upon the Returolng” Board receiving certaln illegal afl- duvits that were made up fo New Orleans by lils order, and Judge Spofford will prove that Gov, Kellogg himself camo Into the room alone and insisted on their roceiving these illegal ntll- davits.” Qov. Kclloge thinks Benator IHill is mistaken when ho attributes tus story to Judge BpofTord. g CONOVER. IR WILL YOTE FOR DOTI{ KELLOGG AND DUTLER. Aveclal Dispatch (o The Chlcaga Tridune, Naw Yonx, Nov. 23.—The for/d’s Washing- ton speclal saya; In conversation with o TWorld correspondent to-night Conover sald: I do nat consider that in my action in the Senate to- day I have donc anything which in my apecch on Monday I ald I would not do. I then sald that 1 should vote for tho ndmission of both Butler and Kellogg, and I shall do it. It makes Jittle difference to me which 1s adinitted first. 1 certainly shall not voto for the admis- slon of Kellogg wuntll I know posi~ tively that Butler will slzo be edmitted. I have hoard it sald to-duy that a bargain was mada with me by the Republicans last night. That s & te. No Democratic Scnator had better chargo a thing of that sort. ngainst me, that is it ho knows what s for the best interest of_his party. I sm not bound to any party, and I will vota justas I pleaw, re- gardicas of everything.’t “Exceept your specch and the declaration ti vote for the admiselon of Butler, I supposs,'* sald the correspondent. * Yes, exactly, excopting that," continued the Senator, “1 suppuso the whole thing grew out of tho visit to Bcnator Dorsey lnst eventug." THE ANNUAY, REPORTS. FREBIDENT'S MESSAGE, Swecial Dupateh {0 The CAicayo Tvibume, ‘Wanuinagrox, D, C,, Nov, 20.~Thd most fin- portantorilon of tho President’s message s that reisting to the finauce, Ot that the sub- stanco was sent {n theso dispatches Jast night. Tho President indorses the vicws of Becretary 8herman ea to resumption, and wiuld undoubt- edly veto s bill to' repeal the Resumption act. Lo also sccns to indorso in substanco the views publicly expressed by Benator ‘Afatthews upon tho sliver question. Upon this polnt, however, tho Presidont s not entirely clear. The ines- sage fu its present shape doca not mako it cer- tain to what oxtent the Prestdent would consent to make the romouetized ailver dollara legal- tonder, 1t scems probsble that he would o‘[;pam the payment of the public debt in silyer. OUR RELATIONS WITIL MEXICO, ‘The Impartant forcigm toplc to be alluded to in the messago {8 the condition of the Rlo Grande border. The President will roecommend fu the strongest possible way the hecessity of protecting tho border, and will urge upon Con- gress tho proprioty of furnishing the Executive with adequate means to that end. Ho will also call attention to tho advisabillty of negotiating o new commercial treaty with Mexico. This ia Evarts' spocial scheme, and tho message will dwell upon it at somu length, Thetheory is that & new commerclal treaty and peace would bo a surer guaranteo of tranquility on tho bor- der than war, INDIAN AVFAIRS. . ‘The message, in treating of Indian affalrs, will warn Congress that the’condition of the Northwestern frontier is such that avy serious diminution of the army would cripple the power :l‘ the Government to protect the ploneer sct- ers, As to Civil Bervice, the President, notwith- standing the Scnatorial opposition, will not re- vede trom the positious taken in his letter of acceptauce and foa The wmessage wil) these princ) and asscrt the neces- ity of s reformed Civil Service. s TUE PISINRIRS AWARD. b'ln lh: mnmalrelu.{:g :?“E{whnd‘ t&m will 3 o Ci ution of to l.hl:n.mt award of the Hallfax Cnmmflg-lr;;: aud recominonding that Cougress make inime- diate provision for the paymeut if it has been .made lo_accordance with the provisions of the Treaty of Washiogton. There is serious doubts whether that treaty did not requirc that the award of the Cowtmissioners should be unank mous The President devotes much space tothe Bouthern question, recites the condition of aflairs upou the begluniviz of the Adwinistra- Mzmi shows the neccasity and constitutional fl@ih of withdrawiog the ps, and cougratu- 64 the cuuntry that that policy bas resulted in the restoration of peace sud order. Bince the 4tn of Murch thero have been 0o reports of 4 SLNGLE POLITIOAL MURDER. Enough is known sbout the messaze 1o show that mauy Congressinen will be dissatisfed. The ciass ‘which opposes Civil Beevics wlll Snd in it ground for rcuewed gricvance, The bloody-shirt mon will alsy flud zeason to cow- plain. The antl-resumptionists will bo disap- rnlnuxl, hecause they eannot fall toread that s hill to repeal the date of resumption would not hecome & law except over the President's veto. ‘The ricnds of the remonctization of silver, while partially satisfled with the Prestdent’s po- sition, will regret that he does not proceed far enough. Sotne will perhaps complain that he does not go far enough to make the remonetiza- lon scheme ot any practical value, THR NAVY REPORT, | The report of the Becretary of the Navy 1s eompleted. If.{:reeonu a summary of the pres- ent condition of the naty, and & review of it for thelaxt ten years. The Becretary condudes that naval Jegislation has been so fragmentary and in parta s uaintelligent 04 to have serious- 1y Injured the shipsand men. Becrotary Thomp- 200 advacates the creation of a frst-class navy, and thinks that the revival of forelgn trade an development of cummmerce will moke alarge navy more easential. The Secretary recommends an Increase in the number and “character of tho vessels. He also favors liberal appropriations for the Northern navy-yards. e calls atten- tion ta the former mismauagement of tho navy appronriations, and recommenda leglalation probibiting the diverson of onefund toanother. TOE OFFICES, GEN. IARLAN. Soeetal Dispatchto Tha CMeazo Trivuae, Wasmixerox, D. C., Nov. 20.—Gen, fHarlan was confirmed to be Associate Justice, but a motion to reconsider tho vote was entered, and must come 1t at tho’ next exccutive scssion. The objectlon was made that the Chalrmen of scveral prominent. committecs, including Ed- munds, had paired to go to s Thanksgiving dinner, and that the subject should not be dis- vosed of on that account. ¥tz Blmmons, the Georgia Marshal, was the next, upon which the caucus could come to po concluston, snd upon that they adjourned. Among other confirmations was that of Col- lector Thomas, of Baltimore, who has had Lhie earnest opposition fn committee of tho cotire Creswell schoo! of Maryland politiclans. 1 EFPINGIAM LAWRENCE. Assurances are given' that Efflngham Law- rence will not be coufirmed as Collector of New Orloans nt the present scssion, It he is not, Uovl. Packard will probably be nominated next acsslan. CORPIRMED, To the Weatern Anociated Press. Wasiuxaros, D. C.,, Nov. 20.—The Senato confirmed John T. 'l'lmmuv Jr., Collector of Customs at Baltimore, vice Wilkius, suspended; J. Corcuran, Naval Ofilccr, Baltimoro, Collectors ot Intcrual Revente—Burt Van Horn, Twenty-clghth_District, New York, vice Decker, susponded; Willlatn A, 8tuart, Second District, Kentucky, vico Johnson, reinoved. Recelver of Public Monsys—Harrison Kelley, Topeka, Kan. Iteglster of the Land Offfico—M. J. Butter, 1n- dependence, Kon. - Tostinnster—Dobert A. Cowden, Gallon, O, The notination of John L. Harlan to be Asso- clate Justico of the Bupreme Court was contirtn- ed, but a notion to reconsider was entered, and this was left pending at the adjournment. “There Is good authority for sating that the number of Senators opposed to the appoint- ment is emall, and that final favorable actlon will shortly be voted by a large majority. CONGRESSMAN ALDRICH. I8 TIEWS ON THE IMPENDING CRISIS. The tlon. William Aldrich, member of Con- gress from the First District, arrived In the city fromn Washington yesterday, to partake of hig Thauksgivioz dinuer with his family, A Tiutn. UNE reporter called upon the gentleman dur- fuz the afternoon at his resldence, No, 60 Calu~ met aveoue. Mr. Aldrich reccived the newapas perman very kindly, but was opposed to the *“‘pumping process,” inasmuch as he thought that bie had not yet been long §n Congress, and o new man’does not gencrally sccomplish a great doal during the first fow weeks of a special sesslon. Inreply to o question, Mr. Aldnch sail; “I think Kellogg and But.cr will both be admitted to seats in the Senate, but upon more thon that it {s bard to cxpressan opiuion, aa thero is no telllng just now what will turn up in the future,” “I{ow do you feel towards the President? “In most particulars I approve of President Hsyes' potlcy, ana I have no hesitation iu saylug so. Ithink heis trylng to and aims to do what s right, 1 might do alfferently in some thinge, wero I in his place, but 1 feel that Uie is working for the best interceta of the country, and s acting honestly, atd I shall do my best to indorse him," ** What chances has the Silver hill 1" ‘1 think the Silver bill will be passed “the Scnate, with somo amendments, and_ will recelve thc signature of the President. I am satlsfled that is all that will ba' done {n regard to tinancial leglslation this seasion. I favored the Rilver bil) as §t passed the Jiousc, though not In all its particulars, but 1t was tho best we could get.” *+ ¥ belleve you dou’t favor a repeal of the Ro- sumption acti" 5 * 1 voted oralost the proposed repeal, be- causc | think the law s fixed and I don't think we had better disturb {1." -hat have you been dofog in gencrall" T linve uo special busiuess befors Congress, I nave charyzo of the bill for an_appropriation for the hinprovement of tha Detroit Hiver, which Is capecially uskod for by four Board of Trade, I am Interested in the gencral legisla- tlon, but thero are innumerable bills introduced upon cvery concejvable subjeet, Many ought never to have been introduced at all. Amoug the bills that are good and some which I favor ’nu thoso that call for & repeat of the Bankrupt Ilave you a bi)} on that subject?? * No, but I favor the repeal, Decause our mer- chants demand it. Tucra are a number of bills which proposc ameadments to sod modifcations ot uml Bankrupt law, but I'bolioye in its catire repeal. * f{ow do you stand upon other ‘questions?’* 1 can’t toll you just now. There will not bo much work done by Congress uatll sfter the regular sossion convenes, That Is all Mr. Aldrich bad o say. ——— CANADA. A Movement on Foot to Inaogurate = Through Trade Betwoen OChicago and Liverpool. Special Dupateh €0 The Chlcago Trivuns. Harivax, Nov. 20.—The mesting to-dsy on the winter-port question was large and en- thusfustic, sbout 800 belng present, represent- fug ull branches of business interests in tho community. Tho Mayor orcupled tho chalr, and futroduced Sir Hugn Allan, who made s long speech, His offer to the peopls of Halllax sy be summed up as follows: If the pllotago of Halifax harbor is reduced and ‘the prico of provislons made ressonable, on grain sod other goods brought from the = West, ho will accept | reduced freight “ from Hallfax, snd. carry ‘goods on through bitls of lading, say from Chlago to Liverpoot, at the same a5 via l'ortland. A humber of prominent business men addressed the meeting. Concentrated efurts will be wmade to nmnmfllhh the object, The appoint- ment of U. P Black as agent to visit Chicago was hum}d,lmlnrwd voto of thanks was passed to Sir Hugh Allan, who in roply boped that before thy winter passed he would bave she plessure of coming to Hallfsx to ablp the O e t 780 aicago Tribuns al Disj o . Qrrawa, Out., Nov. 20.—A deputation is in the city to make represeutativns to the Gov- ernmout rugcuuuz regulations a4 to wrocking veasels on thu Canada and Awerican cousts, with a view to securing souie incans of putting the veasels of the two countrics ou u foutiug ol Sl by Yo SR ane i o MoxthzaL, Nov. 20.-Nir A. T. Gsit has written a letter docllulng the dioner tendered by the citizens of Mootreal. He says that, while tully aporeciating the proposed houor, lie cau- nul{)ui feel that, haviog scted in a judlefal ca- Elut_v. it would not become him to accept any kinduess which mizht by any possibility be sup- posed by vthers to UDOU clregmatances that the awurd was satislactury to the country. Judze Kelloge, the American "Fishery Cowuwl sioner, peascd fluouah bore to-dsy ca route to Aassachusetts. THE LATE BISHOP MARVIN, 87. Louis, Nov. 20.—Thbe funcral of Bishop Marvio took place to-day, aud was sttended by & large concousss of le, Incls members Ol‘m d.znummnlon‘:eo x:d. dmamgen;l‘lly. gt e sl gciil e ber, of tho Me ul ‘Tounessce and oiher States. 5 ol FOREIGN. Plevna Now Said to Be Pro- visioned for Several Weeks. Derby Ahandons Mis Customary Reserve and Speaks to the Point. A Deputation Informed, that England’s Policy Is One of Neutrality, 8till Bussia Will Not Be Allowed to Beize and Hold Con- stantinople, Condition of Afflairs in the Turkish Camp at Shipka Pass, Faint Gleams of Hope Appear in the French Polit= ical Situation. The Pope Again Reported to Be in- & Very Critioal Condition. ‘WAR NOTES, TLEVNA. Loxnox, Nov. 20.—A Vienna corresoondent states that rumors of negotlations for the sur- render of Plevos are contradicted from the Russlan camp itsclf. Turkish prisoners, more- over, assert that Osman Pasha has suppliea for many weeks, wnd that be has addressed his officers, anuouncing his futention to hold out to the last mau, Elther owiog to these reports or other information, it seems that the expecta- tion of the Russians of & speedy surrender are somewhat diminished. DENIAL. Bucnanzst, Nov. 20.—ln official Russian clr- cles an emphatic dental is given to the rumors of an {ntentlon to coucludo an armistics after the tall of Plovna. TURKISH PRISONXRS. Correspandence London Times, TIZADQUARTERS AntY oF Burasnia, Booor, Nov. 6.—The 3,000 prisoners mentloned in my Inst rematned Lere during the night and left for. Russta fiatcnh morning. 'he Egyptians were well dressed, of good “physique, and’ zen- erally bad o fine ¢xpression of countenance. ‘The Bosnians luoked well also, their lignt halr o eyes showfng thelr Slay blood; but the rest o f the captives, comprising more thau one-half the number, wery the nost villainous-lookine crowd of belugn I ever bebeld, They were furs nishied with ratlons here before leaving, and moat of them, the Egytians and Bosnians eilmcinlly, recelved them with a good-natured. erin of satisfaction which madethes scens rather 0y Jxlmn«t one. Bo carcful were the Russian o icers fu charge to fi" to causa of complalnt | that Yeawone Turk who had viulated the or- ders in some way brought up by the afficer In command to the Bimbashl of Regulars who su- perintended the rationingzof his men, aud this Turkish ofticer, on bhearing what the man had dune, gave him two rattling boxes on the cars ond sent him off. ‘The Russian gusrd surround- ed tho prisoners, but thelr owu officers ndminls- tered disclpline, which was generally carried out by kicks, cuffs. snd raps on the head with the aticks they carrled. SUPFLINS IN PLEVNA. Prisoners and deserters from Plevna now statc that thero are six wecks' provisions {n the town. Many of them are taken with cars of Iudian corn tled to thelr belts, which suggests that this grain 1s the principal sustenance, Ac counts * of the quantify of supplics fn P'lovna vary so much that no tellance csn be placed upon them, and, in fact, it is highly probable thint the men questioned know nothing sbout the actuai provisions remaining ut the disposal of Osman Pasna, TIX MILITARY SITUATION, Nov. 7.—The Russlan cavalry have cut the coinmunications between Lom Palunka, oclow Widin, and the Interior, As the infantry have now encircled Osman Pasha’s army, the cavalry ot Gourko are free to scour tne whole country between Orchanie and Widin, ond they are making use of their opportuuity, The Turka ar¢ very busy fortiying the m:hx{xu ox- tending from Kirshine, northweat to the River Vid, thenco along the right bank of that stream to the bridge over the VId on the Sofla road, where the Ruasians first commenced extending their left tlank towards the Sofia rond by mov- fog tho brigades of Infantry of the Guard in that direction, ‘There are seven carth- works eaat of the river, and one Just ou tho other side of' the stream defending the bridge. Ncarly all of them sre ready for the guns and garrisons. The Turkish soluiers work away in the cooleat way Imaginzble upon these carthiworks with the Russian abells burst- ing in_their midst cvery two ‘minutes. 'Iho ‘Turkish artillery fire on this part of tbe lne iy nawfiultc lively, as many as 120 shells falling in ona Russian huuri in a'single day. The salvos of artillery from the Russian batferies are su) posed tu be dofug considerable damagre nside the Plevoa lines, ns the hundreds of sheils whis- tiing into the various Turkish fortifications at the same mument prevent the men dodging Into safe places, not kuowing which way to turn in the confusion of 80 many misslles hurled upon them from cvery point of the compass. TIGHTENING THE LINES, Bcarcely a day passes without the allied lines being drawn tighter ay soinc point, and the spacs occupied Ly Usman Pasha's urwy {s grad- ually diminishing under this process of virtual strangulation. It is somewhat diflicult to reconclle Osman's energy in eunstructing new fortitications with his supposed vn?mu of breaking through the hostile lHues, as his provisious arc certainly linited, he sur- render or mako u dash out svon, sinco thers 18 mo lope ol bis getting any more_supplies through the fnveatiug glirdle. Ilis losscs are cetiinated at from 200 to 800 men g:r dsy from the projectiles of varlous kinds. Thu sliied Hues, on” the other hand, aregrowing stronger every hour, snd consequently every day lessens Osman's chances of »succesaful, or partially succcssful, sortie, 0 that bis new fortitications would rather indi- cats lg:fl“h of resisting to the last, and then surrenderiug his remalniug forces. 11 he hins six weeks' provisigns, the sllies should have thelr liue absvlutely lnpregnable by that time, so that tho situstion two pliases or possiblli- tles. First, Osinan may be short of supplics sircudy, and attempt bis escape withiu the next week Or ten days; secondly, he may intend sur- reuderiug when he Las exhausted bls provisions aud intlicted all tho damage ho cun upon bis enemy. The new earthworks would lead to the supposition that the latter courss has been de- wfw upou. Had Oswan been a great General, he would have extricated biwsclf frow his roseut trap before the tolls closed around bim. l’n. moinent of sitack was when tho allied forces were moving Ly thelr tisuks, aud before they bad saken thelr positions sud covered thewselves by fortidcutions. It he bad any reasonabls hopo of belog rescuod by an outside: force, his Efllcy in allowing Limsel! to0 bo shut up might be understood, but it i3 dlficult to sco hero on the spot where sny such force s to cowe frow, or, if 1t existed, bow it could get vear cuough to Plevua to act o conjunc with the garrlson. AMERICAN TROWEL-BAYONET. Col. Rive, of the United States Army, was presented to tho Grand-Duke Dicholas yester- dam‘l.leut. Greene; the American Military Attache, and oxhibii 10 the stafl hig trowel- bayonet for cutting wood and shrowing up basty intrenchments. This bsyonet is of novel constructivn, attracted much attention st bheadyuarters. eponde Adon Th Prna, Nov. 8.—There is & curious story of the 8L afloat ultan dreawing thut the Prophict Mo- Bamiicd appessed to him' 104 wared hiin that the safety of his roligion and throne depenited upon his making peace. - Thereupon the Haltan consufted his first astrologer, who said he had aiso seen the same vision. The Shefk-ul-Isiam, too, is reported to have had the story of the dream narrated In the mosqucs, 88 if to preparo the public mind for peace. DERBY’S POLICY. BTRICT NACTRALITT. Loxpox, Nov. 29.~~The Time and Dal'y News unqualifiediy approve Lord Derby’s declarations regasding England's polley in the Fast, The Tunetsays: ** Lord Derby hias at last, we may presume, returned o inal answer to tho damors for war with Russia in defense of Turkey, and his words will give perfeet satisfaction to the great majority of his countrymen.'* The Standard saga: ‘“Ata time when the Government 1a accused of not knowing its own mind, and of not having a definite policy on the Eastern question, the country will read with 1n. terest Earl Derby's speech to the deputation which waited ou him yesterday to Inform bim that Constantinople was in danger, and that he really ought to do something, espeeldily If ho conld get Ausiria to help bim. The Fureign Becrctary was able to polnt out that the polley of the present Government, to-wit: - the sbandoument of Tarkey, cxcept a3 for as our own {ntercsts required” that wo should resiat her eneinics, was resulved upon and declared even before the agitation concerning the ont- rages in Bulgaria.: Having thus reassured his audienco that the policy of the Government was not dictated by St. Jumes' fall, and would not bo altered by 18, Lord Derby was able 8180 ta say; * We bave spoken lu as strong terins o diplomatle usaee perinits of the necessity of not altowing Cunstantinople to paas jato viher Lianda than those that nuw hold it.” Upon that puint I can only refer you to the language we heid at the beginning of the war, from which :u do not intend to depart o the slightest egree. *"Lord Derby's second polut was, that,althongh we need not yet talk of intervention, still should it cows to that we must not rely upon Aurtrfa. One of the deputation had sald that Austifa was _ read: o do something, provided Eungland encouraged her. The reply was explicit: ‘I think [ can lay clatn for myeelf that I bave missed no op- portunity of knowing what are the idens and feellnga of the Austnun Government, and [ con- tent inyself with expressiog my dissent from this oplnfon,’ " ‘The Standard, however, 1inds causo for dissat- {sfaction {n the absence of uny reference to the pussibility of a seporate peaco between Russia and Turker, and says, iu conclusion: *Kn- gland Los o stake o the fssuc of * the conflict which 1t is Jopossible for her to forgot or Jgnore. Otff)the hystauders, she {s the most ucarly interested In efther o the vnly two poussible results of battle,—the total ollspse of Turkey, or private arronges ments between ber and” Russia. Anv day oy bring us the news of elther event, and when that duy comes how - shall we be prepared for it Thatis s question which the English veo- ple are now asklug themselves, and we are sor- 1y that Earl Derby cannot give us anytling more comforting thian the well-worn a:surance ;,lhnl.hcgnlmlmupln {8 not to pass wto Hussinu ands, TUE LORD CUIXF DAROX OF ENGLAND ON THE BITUATION. London Correspondeuse Naw York Times, That uncasy feeling the Engllsh mind which I have alrendy dwelt upon wue further exen, lluedfi'encrdl in a speech made by the Lord Caief Baron of England on recetving tho new Lord Mayor at Westminster. Addrcssing thie Lord Masor from the Bench {u the Court of Exchequer at Westminster, the ola jualclal chiettalu sald: Ay Lonp Maron: 1t §s now Just six yesrs ngo thut, in addresains tho then Unlef Magietrate of tho City of London frum tols Beuct, T ventured to obmerva that the balance of puwer in Europe was well-nigh overthtown. Prussia find possessed itaslf of an hnportant part of Denmark, of the Kingdow of Uanover, of several indepeudent tiales, or the fortunes of several fitates, of Gerwsnoy, aod to this had pdacd some of tho fafrest, aud richedr, and tho. most sirongly fortificd provinces of Prauce. And, if at that time, and with those vast additions to ter power, then, an Bow, Prussia could have formed an alilance with snother of the great Continental States, they would have equaled In theyr upited actiun the power of the First Napoleon wnep, witer overrunping nctlon sfter nation, be law of Enrope somo wixty or suventy What, then. f theso” States—that —commanding the eutire power of uld form, or khould Lave formed, an anotaer of the great Continental States, such as the Eiopire of Russla: and If, after this unlon, tho Ottoman Emplre shiould be over- thrown, and if these preat powers having Earope— 1 waa gbout to say at ineir feet, but—at their dis- posal, should think ft to parcel vut the dominluna of the conquered country~uof couguered Turkey? 18 1t Impossible that Constantiaople and the ilos- photus, and some uf the faircst portions of Asia inor—the Turkish territories dn Aula Minor— shoud fall to the 1ot of Russla? Iait impossiblethat that which was done in the 1ast century with Foland shonld be done with Tarkey i thisy Temembering also that* rusels, now magul- fied tuto Imperial dernany, and Lusals, from the time of l'eter the Ureat to the present hour unchanging and unchanged, were two of Stho great Powers or States in Europe which committed—[ had hat actof spoliation, Is sooner or later, under the power of theso two grest Emplres, the dominion of Turkey shonld bo parceiod out in the way to which I have uow res ferrcd? and §f that ebould take place, if wuch sisould then bo tha state of Europe,—Austria, in- deed, might be compensated or macrificed, ~ihen what 1e to tecome of the dearest Intcrusts. of Ens gland, the froedom of her commercial Intercourse, aud ner vast possessions in the East, (0 xay nothing of tha safaty of Indla ltseif? My Lord, Iam not one of thosu who think thut England need shrink from an encounter with sny number of enemiva who may be banded togesher.sgainat hor. 1 woald a8y, with our great dramaiist, ++Come€ tie three corners of And we sail aliack thom. Englsnd. slugle-handed aud alone, and defigd ths first Napoleon, the wreatest mililary commander, perhaps, scarcely excepting (wsar ana our own filustrious Wellington, that the world ever saw. Alone dld England wage a gre: sgainst the fmt Napoleon, break to vicces his mmu‘y Empire, and st Isat, with her silios, de. fested him ina well-fought feld. and conmgned bl to “Vl-lolll; exile inen fosigmidcant teland, And so mught England weet and defy, confront, and dofeat any nuwmber of States 0 Europa banded together againet her; but it would Do st the ex. lnnlo of & hundred thousand wreclons lives und wo or three hundred mitillous sterling of moncy, MENEMET ALIL INTERVIEWED DY A FEMALR CORRESPONDENT, A lady correspondent of the Cologme Gazetls gives the following nccount of an interview which sho had ou the 14th of October with tho ‘Turkish General, Mehemet Ali: 4] had now au opportusity of observing him moro closoly, Ha s rather over the middle belght, broad-shouldered, and certalnly does not look like a Turk, but rather lke a disgulsed Europesn. The teucy of bls speech, the ani. mated gesture, the half-sarcastic, half-bumorous curling of the ls, the sharp glance, all denote the Westeru mun, Hia manuers, entirely uu- coustrained, yet well-bred, betray the wan of the world, his gental tone the Gormun. It fs quite fmpossible for me to reproduce exactly all Lie said, especlally u}whnn he cawe to wive a rapid explanation of the late military move- meuts, [ Lad the misfortune to coufound divia. the world in arms, confionted -fous sud brigedes. I caunot, therafure, trust wy mewory for particulurs, But for what Ido wll lnu 1 can youch, - *First he spoko of his own deposition, which does not seem quite clear to bim even yet. ‘M{ deposition,’ be sald, * was regretted by the Sul- tan soon after he cousented to ft. Ho himself wua for countermanding the order, but seversl Ministers assurcd biw it was too late, Sulcimay being ulready ou Lis way. This I have from the Minlster of the Iuterdor, I have not yet been admitted 10 the presence of the Bultan, sud I know | bave wore ucwics than friends. Frown the very beginoing I was surrounded in cam, by several whow b would readily bave got rls of, but I forbore to do this, and fiow they bave taken the Hret opportuunlty toget rid of e *Your ulsfavor csbuoot last lou%' Lsald; ‘you will soou be wanted agaln.' ¢1hope uot, and [ carnestly wish the ditliculty may Lo got over without me. 1 aw firndy resolved to take no step toward clearing up the watter, and will culmly wait bervand see what s to be dono with ie.! % flo now went on to speak of the Russlan bey bave taken Blela, ey 0 and ’hulfl ‘Tirnov the kcy’ of the Hal- kaas, and their cosition s & ceutral one, while . we sre scattered. Thoy are now, Dlorcover, upon the defensive, while we taust take the of- fcusive. But for this year at least the cam. paigu is nearly ended. ‘In a furtnight the whole of Bulzarls will bo & buge gquagmire. The Rusaians have now to bestir themselves to sccomplish two things,—pllo up provisious for fiye or six moutbs ou the right bank of the Dan- ube, aud cummyuication with the left -3 side. ‘Do youy; 2 ald Mchemet All, turn- ln‘szuunl j@&.Jo you think that with all theatds of Wiy ce you could sneceod in constructing a bridge capshle of withstanding both Jee and overflow ¢ No,' was the reply; ‘perhaps 1 conld in the space of thre ycars, bus not eooner.’ ‘“‘Docs your Excolicnce believe that there will be peace soon?” L tnquired, *Ibelieve thal next {cnr the war will be continaed with more eeverity than cver, fur the Russians will make no more mistalios. That Plevna hns not fallen is their own fault, Had they octuoied the roud to Orchanie with a coupic of earihworks and two army corps, Osinnn ’asha would Lave been cut off from any reinforcuinents. The greatost madnees of all, however, was for them to think of stormine intreachments hke those of Plevns, Next year thes will nat_repeat these follies, and will then” bring 400,00 fresh troops fnto the flield.) ‘But 400,000 'Hussfang nrs not 400,000 soldiers,' futerposed young Nourl with energy, ‘Let us ‘guard oursclves, my young friend, ngainst underrating our eneniy. Toiny mind, & good General should alwaya assumo that the foe hoa the Lest position, and act accordingly, He may leave something to good luck, but he must never count on weak opposition. The Russtan eoldier in well equipped, but badly fed; being aleo nccustomend to a constant climate of either exfreme cold or extreme heat, he cannot bear the rapid chinuges In our weather,’ **Mchemoet All now reverted to the question of peace, *Men's hieade,! be sald, ‘arc yet too heated for them to think of settlement. ‘The delegates of buth Powers must be cooled down by a few dlps iu the Danube befors entering on negotiations. Our heads hnve been turned with zlt}vor"y' gnd the Russiaus aro cxsaperated by cfeal TIIE SHIPKA PASS, COXDITION OP APPAINY IN TR TUBRISK CAMP. orrespondence London Times. 8n1PKA, Oct. 14.—The rainy weather, which has con‘inued almost without cessation from the Oth inst., has causcd both sides to’ relin- quish hostilities. It turned the streets and roads into pools, the camp ntoone great swamp, andfilled the hospitals of Kezanllk. Thisincreasa in. the number of the patients was, the cause of fresh hospitals being vpencd In thst place, bringing the large number already there np to tweaty-seven, and this at o time when no fresh cases of wounded were reported. This number will certalnly not appear so fearful when it is taken Into conslderatiou that the greater part of the hospitals are cstablished fn tho smaller private housen; consequently, their accomnio- dation s rather limited. Tne number of iu- valida can scarccly be tnore than 1,000, of whom 700 are il with nternal discases, and of these, again, 10 gvr cent are typlius-fover Kluenwi Binve the afternoon” of the 12th lnat, fino weather has set in, 50 we may shortly expect operutions to recommence should this tina weathier continue. On the very afternuon in uestion the work began, although only with & very wcuknl‘{-mnwlncd artillery fire, which re- comimnenved yeaterduy afternoon, after having neen silent ull night. During the last days of the raln the heavy gums from Con- stantinople arrived, which have now been placedd In the batterics, so that, thers ing 1o derath of amwunition, the cvents of the next few days are looked forward to with great vxpectation. Ithink that a geu- cral attack could unly be made after the lapee of scveral davs, nod not untll a heavy bombard- ment shall seem to have sbaken the enciny’s po- sitfon. Two days ago a rumor auddenly spread in the camp that the Husslans had evacunted all thelr positlons [n the Shipka Pass and that they were now only held by the Rtownaniana, [ mention this rumor’ with- out, however, being able to vouch for ita truti. As far the eamu fteelf, tho feisure time has been well utilized, ns mwuch in Prnvhllnz for ite comfort a8 for the purposes o defegic. The steaw huts are now cuinptete, thelr walls are thickened to the utnost, aud their roofs covered with several layers of straw, Reoutl P’asha and Lis adiatus, Bebekir Pasha, live ln wooden bar- racks, the subordiunte olllcers in tents: whils .upon the bights of the Balkans, bebind tha bhat- terdes, live tho soldicrs, in earth huts “dug out of the solild ‘mountaln, o that the whole slupe appears to be honey-combed with dwelltugs, For the purpose of increasing the defensive power of the camp ltself, a wall has been buflt around ft, upon the outside uf which n trench, five or »ix metres duep, bas heen dug, with steep, sioping siles. ‘The iside of this wall bas been strengthencd with wood aud ahrubs. The wall and trench pince the sereral tumull which nlready cxisted here in communication une with the other. Upon these tumull puns have overywhere heen placed, nod thus they have been converied into oints of support for the line of fortifications, 'hu avenuo which stretches from the (amp ta the rulued villnge ot Shipka hos been partly cut down, 50 os not to hinder the transport of .tho vuns. Through this villago, the louscs of which now {urulsh the matenal for moking tho earth huts impervious to the ncaiher, runs tho roud to the batteries upon the summit of tho Holkans. Directly belund the viffago riscs u mountaln, perfectly stecp, uver the rugged and bare surfuce of which runs a good road to the position of Ball Pasha, which lics between 350 and 400 metres above the Village of Shipka. From this mountaln, separated by & dcvg. lmpassable ravine, tucre mses a still bigher mountain to the cast, which ts covered to the sumimt with thick bushes. . Upon this mountaln Hedsches Pasha has tsken his - position, To the west of the first-achtioued mountaln, and separated from it uiso by a deep ruvive, thoro is o thickly-wooded nountaiy, upon which tha troups of Weissol Pusha are encamped. All these mountains fall off mora or lesa steeply to the nortt, Op the other sido of tie ravine, ly- mi:!u thenorth ol the Arst-mentioned moun« taliy, rises, stecp and apparently inaccessible, a rocky peak, which towers 130 or 200 metres abuve the oiountain, and whose summit can be platoly seen from tho camp of Shipka, high gbuve tho surrounding hills,> From this it can ve casily seen that astorm- inzof the Ruseian positions cannot be easily effected, and that an uttack upon them is onty possibly whien chie sniciny Las been weakened by o heayy artitlery lre, When this has been w~ complished from cach of the Turkish positious, the uttacking column must frst reach the bot- tow ol the ravine, sud trom there attcmpt the storming of the eneiny's camp, s0 that they must truverse the est part of & dificult roud under the fire of tho encing, This ia also the reason why, on the occasion of the attack on the 17th of last mbntn, the seuding of reinforcrments was delsyed so loug that they arrived too late, FRANCE. - DESIUES TO DB 85T ROUT. Loxpon, Nov. 20.—A Parls dispatch states that President MacMabon has rosolved to sce the Duke d'Audiffret Vasquicr aud M. Jules Urevy, and assurc theni that, ineplie of the representations misde to them by varlous Sen- ators and Deputies, parilsmentary institutions are not in danizer, THH NEXT PRRSIDENT. It appears certain that the various groups of the Left Jook upou M. Dufaure us the future President of the Kepublic, TUE BUDGET. The Lelt Centre Deputies bave resolved that thoy will pot vote the direct taxes as long as T'residont Mac3iation continucs to resist, They will, however, voto the indiroct taxes, but only by lustatlineuts, AN ARRANGNMENT PROBABLY. Latest advices, however, (ndicate that rumors of possible arrangement are galnlug coosfst- ence GREVY AND MACMANON, Panis, Nov, 80,.—M. Jules Grevy had san lo- terview with President Macabon to-day, The President sssured bim that Parliutocut was in no dunger. Neltber ite exutence nor functions a8 eatablished by the Coustitution woul threatened, Appretienslons of a coup d'etat were buscless, and e repelled all fucltements to :lm.-h sulution. 'l'!.&: ‘l*retldcm. lmfl’aed kv‘.a I?.l. revy's arguments for reverting to a Parlia- mientary regloie, but although be did not pro- nouuce for uuy other sulutlon e scewed uot w aceept M. Uruvy's proposal, sud e to- wards the Chomber seutiuments of reslstance sather than conciliation, WILL MEXT THEM HALY-WAT. Panris, Nov. 20.—The Youlleur says President MacMahon holds that the Chawber can, by vot- 1ng the bud ul‘wxlv prove that it did nut intend that Satu. 's vote should be conslderod as u declarution of war agalust bim. 1f the Chamber thus show uuuclhllbr{ disposition the Fresf- dent witl lLulkly fulull biy prowisca to appotut s thoroughly parliamoutary Ministry, tha Chamber docs not show such disposttion, the Presideut tnust ask the Bsnate to chooss be- tween his resipuation or e fresh dissolution. DUVAL'S BENTIMENTE. Pauis, Nov, 2.—Havwd Duval in a letter ex- presses the conviction that true Conacrvatives shiould sabiit o the usatioual will, ayd recws