Casper Daily Tribune Newspaper, October 30, 1924, Page 7

World Results FOOTBALL DOPE 15 TAKING Ao OGHEDULES ARE ADVANG Lawrence Perry Picks Strongest Elevens of Many Divisions Based on Showings Made in Games Up to Date. pa | By LAWRENCE PERRY. Copyright, 1924, Casper Tribune. NEW YORK, Oct. 30.—Something like onder is beginning to establish itself Out of the early football sea- son chnos. Certain teams in the va, rious sections have emerged so that now it is possible to segregate a select/ few from the mass.-It is quite true jthat unfortunate things will later/ happen to some of ‘the out- ding groups, nevertheless among its ¢omponents are those who will ultimately don the champion's bays in their various sections. If two elevens were to be selected to fight ft out for the national championship right now, unquestion- ably the vast majority of votes wauld be cast for Il'inois and Notre Dgmp. And of all teams these seem most likely to finish the season with unblemished record: Both Illinois and Notre Dame:are Lemp oes, trained outfits. Zuppke’ men /handle the ball more cleanly thanjthe Hoosiers but on the other hand, whereas four of Notre Dame's backs play a vital part in advancing the/ball, the Illinois attack to date has, been almost exclusively bullt around) Grange. How Zar would Grange get against the fierce and accurate backfield tuckiiig of the South’ Hend team? No ont can answer this, but the writter would be willing to wager he wonld not by any means run hog wild, fs he did against Michigan. Notr¢ Dame's plays are on a wider pattern than those of Il'inols and no coach would elect to install the huddle system of signals with a cool, resourceful, prestigitator such as Stuldhrer at the he'm. The writer is inclined to regard the open field and line interference of Illinols as superior to anything ofythe sort he has yet seen. All in all, a game between Notfe Dame and Illinois’ would be we'l worth seeing, Three eastern elevens have not BIG TRADE IN MANORS 150 TO BOTH TEAMS ‘Niehaus Going to Pirates Most Important Factor In Recent Deal. . By JOHN B. FOSTER (Copyright 1924, Casper Tribune) NEW YOR! Oct. 30—The big “three for three’ trade engineered by the Pittsburgh Pirates and Chi- cago Cubs has drawn for more than one critic the expreasion of belief that Barney Dreyfuss got a bit the worst of it, But prior to an actual showing of how the transplanted Players will show up the writer in- clines to the belief that the moving of the Niehaus to Pittsburgh is the really great factor in the swap. When the Cubs took Niehaus from the Chattanooga club, some men who had watched him play there were sure that the Cubs had obtaln- ed a player who could put it all over any first baseman that Chicago bad had for some time. Chicago had sot been overstrong on first basemen for a long time. But the Cubs did not keep Niehaus long enough to find out how good he really was. The Pirates will make the experiment. And it may rebound greatly to thelr credit. Last season, Nethaus bated 384 for Chattanooga in 154 games, which is an excellent mark. Made in the Southern Asso- clation, it is good enough to war- rant the expectation that Niehaus will turn in at least a $25 rating if he does not go into a slump. He hit long distance wallops fairly well with 80 two-baggers, 9 three-baggers and 11 home runs. The release of Grimm by Pitts- burgh to Chicago is a story within a story. There has been friction be- tween! Grimm und the Pirate man- agement for some time. Exactly what the nature of it has been nieth- er party will disclose, but Grimm cer- tainly fell off as a result. At the beginning of 192%, he appeared to be the greatest first baseman fielding the ball, but he has got out of that habit. The Cubs not only have their old first baseman with them, includ- ing Cotter, but they also have Welch, a payer of Seattle, who is much wanted and who fs said to play a f'ne first bawe. So that gives them plen- ty of first base material even if Grimm does not perform better in his new home. Maranville, Cooper and Grimm all may go better in Chicago then they did in Pittsburgh and t again they may not. But there isn't an awful lot of batting strength added to Chicago by the trade. The Pirates will bring Moore resu- larly into thein batting order to play second w'th Niehaus Moore, Wright and Traynor will put out a ground covering avartet that will rival that of any club in the major leagues. The euestion is can they play good enough ball to get thru the New York Warrier at the end of the sea- son and win a championship. been defeated nor tied to date— Pennsylvania, Lafayette and Syra- cuse, But in ranking elevens, many considered other than the sheer fact of victory. For logical question any of this trio had met Notré Dame or Dartmouth or Yale, would it still be undefeated?” In other words, scores should not be the sole consideration in the rating of teams. The writer believes, thus, that Dartmouth, although tied by Yale, must be ranked with the best in this section just now. Tying Yale and beating Harvard on successive Sat- urdays is a notable feat, make no mistake. Syracuse has great prom- ise, but she has done nothing yet to suggest vast power and dazzling ability. Of all the leading teams, Pennsylvania, in defeating the pow: erful Columbia team, seems to have turhed in the most signal, perform ance. Lafayotte’s victories over the in-and-out Pittsburgh eleven and a fair W. & J. team were creditable, but not amazing, Here is the way ‘t should look: ‘ First group—Pennsylvania, Dart- mouth, Syracuse, Lafayette, Yale. Second group—Army, Columbia, Princeton, Brown, Harvard, Rut- ers, Lehigh Holy Cross and Boston College. Western Conference — Illinols, ‘irst; Chicago, Iuwa and Ohid State ‘recketed for second. - (This trio has “fe games to mar records.) Michi "an third,-having retrieved herself ‘hrough defeat of Wisconsin. Win consin and Minnesota, curth place. Stanford, All these e’evens, how ever, are strong contenders for the ronference title. formidable. Missouri Valley Conference—(Rat ed by Frederick Ware, of Omaha World-Herald)—Drake takes the lead ‘rom Missouri by tts decisive victory er Oklahoma, conqueror of Ne “raska, while Missouri was lucky to heat the Kansai Nebraska must beat -Missourt tf Saturday ‘to stay in the race. Missour! wil be out ff it loses: "Rocky Mountain Conference—(Rat ed by Les Goates, of Salt Lake Desert News)—Colorado University, “olorade Aggies, Utah, Utah Aggies Montana State, Denver university “alorado College, Colorado School of Mines, Wyoming and Young, in the order named. > Bears are getting FOOTBALL QUESTIONS ADDRESS: Lawrence Perry, Special Football Correspondent of the Casper Tribune, 814 World Bui'ding, New York. If you have some question to ask about footbull— If you want a rule interpreted— If you want to know anything fifteen years an authority on the game as writer and official. If you’ want @ personal reply en- close a stamped, self-addressed Otherwise your ques- this envelope, tion will be answered in column QUESTION—Have Marquette and Notre Dame ever met on the foot- ball fied, if so what scores? ANSWER—They have met four times. There were two tle games, nothing to nothing“and five to five, and then Notre Dame won 69 to 0 and 21 to 0, the last game being played in 1921, QUESTION—Js there any rule against a head linesman leaving his marker in the fleld of play so that players may stumble over it? ANSWER—No, but there should be. Tho marker should be stuck in the ground nearer the sidelines for the safety of players and to insure no interference with play. QUESTION—A member of Team A is put out of the game for rough work. The pena'ty is called by the umpire. May appeal by the play- er’s team be taken to other officials with a view to determining whether or not the umpire was right? ANSWER—In no case involving disqualification may such’ sppeal be taken. Six Day Bikers Are Hard at It CHICAGO, Oct. 30.—The team of Horan and Walthour continued in the lead in points in the six day in- ternational bicycle race at the end of the 81st hour today, while 1,467 miles, 8 laps and 260 points to its credit. The combinatoins of Georgetti and Stockelynch, with 195 points and De Wolfe and Goosens, 58 points, had the same mileage. McNamara and Madde with 220 points, led the nine teams tied for second place, a lap in the rear of the leading three. : bracketed tn Then Purdue, North- bateel pos pine arpeen Calitornsa | @xhtvear-old Washington manager, Stilt lente Gallforate pecan aga {Who made baseball history by win Tien Wwashingtan aalveesitey ana} 0g @ pennant and a world’s cham. YOU KNOW THE TRIBUNE'S PAGE OF WELLMe. KEEFE, 10M @ REPORTER FOR THE Paris TIMEG. THE BOSS WANTED ME NO CHANGES LIKELY |FOOTBALL WAS RULING PASSION NEXT YEAR IN BALL MANAGERS, IS CLAIM By HENRY L. FARRELL (United Press Sports Editor) NEW_ YORK, Oct. 30.—(United Press,.)—While there were a number of disappointing entries in the 1924 vennant races, there wijl be no pen- alties of decapitation passed out on managerial necks. ‘The pilots of all the major league clubs are set for another year, with the excep- fon of Branch Rickey, and if he w ves up the leadership of: the St. Louis Cards, it will be voluntary. The most set of the managers, who are not fn the part-owner class, is young Buck Harris, the twenty ‘ionship in his first year as a man- ger. His success was sensational, rot only because he was the young- est manager to win a pennant and a series, but because the club he uundled was rated as hardly more han a first division possibility be- ‘one the season started. Washington's victory was due to he magnetic personality of its young manager, to his leadership ‘nd certainly to his possession of a ot of smart baseball. There was 20 element of luck in getting the Senators first under the wire in the American league, even if there night be said to have been some ‘ate in the two hits that took crazy bounis over¢the third ,baseman's head and won the deciding game of he series. Harris was an experiment when ne started last spring and now he certainly ‘Ixture. John McGraw will be the manager of the New York Giants, not on!y because he is vice president and a big stockholder in the club, but be- cause he is the most successful manager in the business. He has won more pennants than any other manager in the business and it is natural that with so many success- ful teams he has become the great- est business asset in the game, The Giants have made barrels of dough since McGraw took hold of the club. Miller Huggins has a contract to manage the Yankees that runs an- other year and it is probable that he can handle the club as long as he wishes, becayse his boss, Jake Ruppert, is one of his greatest ad- mirers. Huggins, however, is not in the best of health and he has intimated frequently that he would like to get out of the pressure of handling a major league pennant contender and buy into a minof league club. Wilbert Robinson, manager of the ‘Brooklyn Robins, is another fixture on the job, Robby can have his job as long as he wants it, because he is the biggest asset of the Brooklyn club, not only hecause of a large personal following among the Brook: lyn fa but because he is one of the most capable managers in tho big leagues. Robby has the ability to get the most out of cheap ball clubs and he’ doesn't need to spend a fortune for material to get suc- cessful teams. Robby and Buck Harris were tho outstanding managers of the 1924 season. When Robby finished in second place with a club that was looked upon as a tailender in the spring, he pulled a stunt almost as sensational as Harris did. ar Jack Hendricks has signed an- other contract to manage the Cin- cinnati Reds. Ne deserved another trial because he had nothing but bad Iuck last season, In addition to a lot-of injuries that hurt the club, there was dissension among the players. Some of them thought that the late Jake Daubert should have been given the fob when Pat Moran died at the training camp. Bill MeKetchnie, although the Pirates were the greatest disappoint- ment of the season, has been signed to another’ contract to pilot the Pittsburgh club. The owners of the club know what spoiled the chances of the Pirates to win the 1924 pen: nant and they know that McKetch- nie was not directly responsible. Several of the*reasons for the dls- ,ppointment will be traded or re- leased during the winter. Bill Kfllifer and Johnny Evers are in for another year with the Chicago clubs. Kuillifer is in* the same position as Miller Huggins. In addition to being a capable man- ager, He is in very strong with the ‘owner of the Cubs. When Evers was given a contract to manage the White Sox . some surprise « wus should be classed as a caused. After the bad showing of @ Sox it was thought that Eddie Collins would be given the job as the club played so much better when Collins was acting as manager dur- ing the illness of Evers. Collins, however, is said to be none too keen about the job and Evers was entitled to another chance. George Sisler will handle the Browns again but Burt Shotton may be named field leader of the Cards Branch Rickey is said to be figuring on passing the job over to his first Neutenant and devoting his time to the business end of the club. ‘The two Boston clubs will remain In the same hands, Dave Bancroft ‘s highly regarded by the Brave owners and Lee Fohl is the favorite of the Red Sox owners; Both are capable baseball men, although the) taven't much material with which to show it. Ty Cobb will handle the Tigerr again, Some Detroit fans believe that the club would do better unde: she guidance of a.lets fiery man: ager, but Cobb will not be relieved ‘8 long as Frank Navin is the bos: a.nd as long as Ty wants the job. Connie Mack is practically hir »wn boss with the Philadelphia Ath etics and he has such a capacity for punishment it is probable tha! 1e will not get tired of the job for a few years to come. Art Fletche las a new two-year contract to handle the Phils, This Speaker also has an interest ‘n the Cleveland club and he has iis job cfhched as long as he wants it. ee SPORT BRIEFS NEWARK, N. J.—Mickey Walker, Elizabeth, New Jersey, world’s wel- terweight champion, outpointed Jock Malone, St. Paul middleweight, weight in 12 rounds. PROVIDENCE, R. I.—Mike Mc- Tigue, world’s light heavyweight champion, scored a technical knock- out over Frankie Carpenter of Free- port, L. L, ip six rounds. COLUMBUS, OHIO.—Perey D. Haughton, deceased Columbia foot- ball coach, was called a “truly great coach” tn resolutions drawn on be- half of the American Football Coaches’ association. GREAT FALLS, MONT.—Charles Schwartz, star southpaw hurler of the Cascade county baseball league last summer, signed a contract with the Brooklyn Dodgers for 1925, in Helena. BOZEMAN, MONT.—The state college football team has accepted an offer from the University Colorado to play a Thanksgiving game in the new stadium at Boulder, according to Coach Otto Romney of State, en PIRATES ARE TO TRY FOR OPEED NEW YORK, Oct. 30,—(By The Associated Press)—Speed will be a dominating factor in the pennant drive of the Pittsburgh Pirates next season. Already the fastest club in the se- nior cireuit, the acquisition of George Grantham from the Chicago Cubs, has given the Buccaneers a monopo- ly on speed. The 1925 Pirates will boast proba- bly the four most proficient base stealers in the National League. Max Carey, like Eddie Collins, seems to gather speed with age, led the Heyd- ler organization last season with 47 thefts, while Hazen Cuyler, recruit outfielder was next with 82. Pic Traynor stole 24 and Grantham 21. The former Cub has demonstrated he can do better than this, however, for he stole 43 bases in 1923, -———_— The new stadium of the Univer. sitly of Ilinols has a maximum seat- ing capacity of 66,000. of |) IN LIFE OF LATE MENTOR OF COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY ELEVEN By LAWRENCE PERRY (Copyright 1924, Casper Tribune) NEW YORK, Oct. 30,—Had Percy t. Haughton lived, the season of 1925 or 1926 at latest would have found him at Harvard, where he attained 48 great success and made Cam- ridge elevens famous for their pre- cision skill and knowledge of the game. This, at '- the informa that had been coming out of New England for weeks and while it was in possession of at least one yrominent Columbia man, it does lot appear that Haughton was ques- toned concerning the report. He had announced that he would not coach next year, that he would give is entire atention to business; but vhen all is said and done, Haugh- ton's business was football coaching d thruout his Mfe, had he lived longer, commercial or financial or nereantile call'ngs would have been ever a side issue, For he was a natural teacher of ‘football, had a passion for the game nd was happlest, so his friends say, vhen he was wholly concerned with ‘e great autumn sport, Football was a real business with Taughton, a serious business, and nly players got along with him who ook the game as he did. Speaking of Haughton and his cotball days, Eddie Mahan, the reat Harvard back of a few years go says: , “He did not seem to do much kid- jing, There was a sort of a serious Pirit; Haughton had such an influ. nee over everybody they were frald to laugh before practice while valting for Haughton and after eractice everybody was usually so ‘ried there was not much fooling in he dressing room.” Haughton was a great organizer. de selected as aSsistants men in whom he believed, alw: men who dad formerly played under him, These men would be in supreme con- rol of their respective departments and he never interfered. He would say to his tackle coach for instance: “I want two real tackles by Octo. ber 8," and he would expect to get -hem—and ho did get them, Strategy and operations were his own particular province. He wag cold—cold as an icicle, always. Yet he Was the intensest type of man. Some of his old players think had he been more explosive he would have lived longer. Haughton had plenty of ideas of his own, plenty,of constructive abil- ity; in this respect he was great. But equally was he great in his know- ledge of men, in his ability to ap- praise their worth. He never had an assistant who failed him in any way. But aside from knowledge of foot- ball and men no coach ts successful without the strongest sort of a per- sonality, personal magnetism of the sort that makes all the players re: ponsive. That was Haughton’s great word “responsive.” He ascribed his Succes with Columbla—which flow- ered in the Willams game—as due to his success in making his players responsive. Here are some of Haughton's own thoughts on football, which he wrote some time ago at the request of a friend and admirer: “Aside from the physical and men- tal exercise, the game develops the inestimable quality of doing one's best under pressure. What better training for the game of life than the acid test of a championship gamo? Such a test comes not alone to the player but to the coach as well. “What truer and finer friends can one have than those whom we havo met thru the medium of football? And, finally, as the years trend to narrow this precious list thru death, what greater privilege than to as. sociate with the fellow whose mus, cles are lithe, whose mind is clean?” As to scouting: “The scouting system is a direct benefit to the game of football in general. The reports of the scouts keep the coaching staff in constant touch with developmtnts and tnno- vations that ap week in v a uniformity perhaps, to narrow the scope of the game but this very limftation helps its progress toward prefection.” He regarded self-disctpline as one ‘of the greatest things that football gives to those who play it: “First, the player must learn the comparatively simple rule of self- control. Displays of temper, no mat- ter how provoking the occasion, do no good and generally they interfere with the thinking processes of the engered individual. “Second, he must learn that few men, if any, ever reach the full limit of their development. Men to do begin to know them: es, their ca pacity to stand physical fatigue and their power to absorb bodily punish. ment. ‘Many 6 ed quitters are men who have never properly been taught to make use of the powers within themselves.” In exemplification of this theory, Haughton installed at Cambridge a day when fighting spirit was raised to the nth power, “Bloody Thursday,” the players used to call it, if the writer recalls correctly. He was a two-handed man himself —a two-fisted gentleman, as some- one once said of him. Tall, spare wiry, he suggested the Wall Street man who has kept himself fit—a pleasing, philosophica) talker in the club or other places where men gath- er; but on the gridiron a fearsome being of intense, concentrated en- ergy and a vocabulary which bit like the Russion knout. ‘With Percy Haughton out of the game, football is like @ hill with a, tall tree missin, In the spring of 1869 a four-oared Harvard crew went to England and rowed an Oxford four. The Eng: lish crew won after an exciting race. PAGE SFVEN. First in News . 1824, by The Bell Syndicate, Ine.) FRENCH OWNER OF RAGE HORSE fo OATIGFIED Epinard’s Owner Says He Was Given Fine Re- ception by Americans PARIS, Oct. 30.—(By The Associ- ated Press)—Pierre. Wertheimer, owner of Epinard, French turf idol has returned to Paris from his American visit and declared that “the breaks were against us, as they say In the United States.” “I would have given a lot to have won at least one race," M. Wer theimer continued, “but I've no kick coming. Everybody was pulling so hard for Epinard to win that I would have liked to have given the Amer- ican public the satisfaction of cash- ing in once on my horse, “But its tl in the game, I was treated royally Uy everyone ocon- nected with the turf and really got almost as big a reception ny the Prince of Wales, They are all good ‘sports, A —— Sa The winter racing season at New Orleans will close on March 17 with the Louisiana Derby, which this year will have an added value of $17,500. Of All Events cia eaoa| 1c Beker 10-30-24 WALKER WINS FROM MALONE NEWARK, N. J., Oct. 30.—Mickey Walker, world's welter pion, won a newspaner decision c Jock Malone, St. Paul middlew in a 12 round bout here last nig Malone was on the defe throughout the match. The ch: pion launched a fierce assault in last round which almost swept St. Paul boxer off his fect, Chicago Woman Is to Head Golfers CHICAGO, Oct; 30.—Mrs. John W. Douglass of Chicago, will be elect president of the Women's Westerr Gold association today as she will be unopposed for the office. She wil) succeed Mrs. Farlin H. Ball of Oak Park, who declined renomination at. ter two terms. LEWIS WINS the tl MAT BATTLE CHICAGQ, Oct, 30—Ed ler" Lewis, world’s heavyweight wrestling champion, will defend hts title against Pat McGill, Nebraska, in the main bout of a wrestling show show here tonight. ———— Its tremendous sale is the reason why White Owl is the most re- markable VALUE given today—a very small profit, but on a vast number a “Strang f