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AG) ‘ TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 9, 1924. PAGE SIX. he Casper Daily Cripunc J Ta Dai tibune |The world’s production of wheat was 27] wife of the Memocratic national chair-| gates-elect to the forthcoming .conven- y ; 4 Che Casper Daily Cribune per cent greater in 1923 than before] man, wrote a letter in which slfe declared} tion had come out.in favor of nominating SERMON E X if Ss The Casper Daily Esicen-y pay the war, of rice 80 per cent greater. The] that the attitude of ere Bryan, eee teem! ace. the gent anen wane i Th Sunday fornin| "4 i FY on “na fi, - Se is ion hel ~ gs, am r mmINATE GS Pee ee ee eer Git gutmcraasing capecialtf inal cuae imoaing we oat akc eatinalae|| coding 250 Words and: Should Be tn ‘Tile Office Saturdup: j|teackers ‘will tind It advancaseo Casper (Wyoming) postoffice} The output of artificial silk increased |view of the-commendation of Governor left for Maine explaining that he had to [ship in the church of your chotc: s_matter, November 22, 1916.) during the dgcade 470 per cent. The num-|'Bryan’s position by John W. Davis, Dem:| “look after some’ fences on his rty First Presbyterian The mind should not range undis-|T;' Nit be an even greater advanteg I i isen 15 mil i idential did: but the’ ther®? The excuse was ridiculed by the} Rev. Chas. A. Wilson, D. D..|ciplined over a wide expanse of the}t> take some active part in your s/ Telephones ---~-------- 15 and 16] ber of cotton spindles has risen 15 mil-/ocratic presidential candidate, bu re cand meh Tomorrow thousands of children), onsequental and unimportant.|church and add. the*foree of your neh Telephone Exchange’ Connecting | lions in ten years. Large industries de-| Dmocratic high command is in doubt as| Grant men, ‘and became classic in po- in our city will take their places in |!° dene Gub's calf the Titury of idle lexaciple ahd AUGrAaNIN toe on, F All Departments yeloped during the decade which are al-| to what ought to be done about it. 7 _ | litical affairs. the. public schools. It will be a|™ go Agninst the disposition, ing of & better olty. hey | aT ro Eee eee most entirely new are the manufacture Perhaps the only Caine tee] ; time of the usual sepyey een tish ¢ i wa: vy! ¢ of films and of radio apparatus. Mrs. Shaver and her husband, the chair- ment and assignment, wit! 6 an- 1S | sae. HANWAY Gg DR Beene Die Rote Fahne, Berlin communist]man of the Democratic national com? Napoleon ee nually recurrent question of finatng daily, says: “Before the war western| mittee, is that the frank and. spirited By pee ty sere * places pie pee siete ed Europe was the center of world produc- | lady is not bound to keep her real views, Students of world h story some! ng andes endan dhe car tbat tatalE. tion, Today that control has moved to} especially in a matter so closely bount try to trace important events to sma ot plan, ‘The task of the teach- the United States, which produced in| up with patriotism, in cold storage dur- choi so far removeil in time and dis- 1923 more than half of the most import-| ‘ng a campaign. The publicity given the| t#uce from the final result as to be un- oe er will remain as before, with no edi : diminution of responsibility. Briefly eS Member of Audit Bureau of Circulation| ant commodities that the world uses;| letter represents a breach of confidence} dreamed of in that connection. Thus, a . (A. B.C) but it has in it the intensifying ana enriching of life farther on, Another thing to be sustainea 5 the habit of worship. In this cit, are 2 multitude of church-goor, thelr number fs greatly increas: CIATED PRESS is exclusively en- publication of all news per and also the local n. titled e credited, in news published he! a ? re Latte angi [etaind it. 1a. sficat, to oulttvate: and petroleum, pig iron, steel, copper, zinc,| and will not lessen the respect in which | Close study of contri tory details might | direct tho spirit of inawiry, so that DELICIOUS wtaeicass automobiles, corn, and nearly half the| Mrs. Shaver is held by those who haye| find that the downfall of Napoleon Bona- aoe onan ees SO Ua eH: s peter eer| Puines 1720-23 Steger | World’s output of coal, lead and certain} read the letter and noze‘l the flutter it mere as a dictatorial world power was Eat cep Gani iat tne) ot. the sparks pie SOC oanotriot 286 Fifth Ave, Naw| other commodities. The German chem-| has caused in Democratie national ‘hee, on in some degreé to the official ss eecke (many. ;Chiacen ate out healt York ‘City: Globe Bidg., Boston, Mass., Suite] ical industry,” says the same publication | quarters. o1 ied ciigens of US edge gee rei inquisitive, and this characheristic 404 Sharon Bldg. ew Montgomery St..| “unquestionably the first in tho world] After the close of the World War| 2°t 2 president, either, at the time. rightly developed iesat the base San ancisco, - Copies of the Daily! before the war, must now yield first | President Wilson and Secretary Baker Named by Madison as American @mM-/of the research of the maak. hse Tribune are on file in the New York, Chi-| piace to that of the United States.” seriously: proposed to congress a stand-| bassador.to Russia (the title was “min-|task 1s, ‘second, to suntan ne ‘ e ° cagu. Boston and San Francisco offices and ; ' 8 A pe DES NeEOuiney ACen etn | entnie ace th casein is cagu. E Such increased productive power ing army of a half million men, and ita chaste Moana inky saan) bela 1C 1 1 visitots “are! welconse: proves increased consumption by the] President. Wilson declared in favor of strict advocate of full national court- Sukin non ccotatiaas rnc: timen Pecat CRIPTION RATES. masses of the people. A few people can-| building the biggest navy in the world: | ©SY and respect for his young and small |®027) S00 Trelciees ee ildren. With arrier and Outside State not cause such a remarkable absorption| The national defense act, under which | COUNtry. en a number of American| simplicity goes sincerity. It Is pos- A . Daily and Sunday ~ of great food crops or call for the pro-| the so-called “mobilization” of Nationa] | ™€rchant vessels were seized for con-|sinie tor the educator to cultivate QUALITY. MAINTAINED v Defense day is to be held is the creation fiscation under royal decrees, it made|in the child dave RE sip eee tity of manufactured products. It means| of a Democratic congress. Perhaps Mrs. | 2° difference to him that the deed was|the practice of sincerity tha Sunday Only duction of so vastly increased a quan- i distinguish life. ‘The task is, third, evitably that the average man, espe-| Shaver finds it difficult to keep up with | ™Pelled by the French influence SOMES |e Le ee ancotiece ully in the. “capitalistic” United] the lightning changes of Democratic] N@Poleon, nor that. the vessels of Euro-|to develo ant YO-| This means vastly more than mere rts ail Inside State. ates is living on a constantly higher | leadership, albeit she is a woman and it| Pe®2 an petaahes see any All Eu-| ,cquisition of knowledge. Methods ‘he One Year, y and Sunday 7.8 e, the lugubrious lamentations of the] is often alleged that the feminine mind | TP Was at the moment trembling under | have a large place in preparat sarise line: r 3. > oh 2, i oF PRAT ; . 4 the sway of Bonaparte, and no other dip- | te: and rightly so. The unwise mae Year, S$ Only --.- 2. esmen who lie awake nights through-| is a bit changeable. lomat. protested the shi i ne ‘ethod 1s frequently responsible for pa Months, Daily and Sunday og | Out every campaign worrying over the| There waséno good excuse for the at- ye bya fpeals hi “ie Pp Sie ae en dhe dislike of pupils for, -eibdecte . at ‘Three Months, I a y nas Ly ond 9 et people’s woes to the contrary notwith- tempt to play politics with this purely what he termed ed onalt sp eee. that otherwise might greatly fasci- 9 ters One) Month, Dally -snd° Bur nid in advance | Standing, patriotic question of National Defense thy ne Outrage. So} nate. Such were the common|| - se ¢ retin." tun'e necting Bowed gee er the: Here is an interesting tariff lesson|day. Governor Bryan “pulled. a boner,” | PPOmPty-and boldly did he protest Rus- methods of teaching grammar some f and the Dally Tribune will not insure de- . z = : +. | Sia’s act that, to the surprise of Europe, The methods of teach- ayy. livery after subscription becomes one month] gleaned from the columns of the Berlin| and the wife of the Democratic chair- tlie order wan revoked and the confiees (yen te, Nak “go eae tae tit = haar wa the principal atket Tor Basen’ | Penile Stina seas lca fin’ averted, this Sotwlthtandiag aie] abes's Seacraave ee Sel! “THE NEIGHBORS : - —— rene was the principal market for Saxony’s| perspicacity without being under the sac! ; " It'4ns’ not easy to" give oe KICK, IF YOU DON'T GET YOUR textiles, but America has now built up| same obligation to keep, her private threat and opposition of epoledn. Pe epstitie and brief definition of TRIBDNS behind her high tariff walls, an indu: This ‘defiance of the French dictator nt di If you Jon't find your Tribune after look- g! alls, an indus iews under the control of campaign ex- ii The lady merely said what Democrats thought, education. The president of Yale university speaking some time ago t was largely what led to his invasion of tite with its ee consequenees tO} in ‘New York, said, “If you ask me = 8 army. And to that weakening of his| what education is I must answer and) bad ths: Ree 2 to have her | torces through the. retreat from Moscow |tine 1°de toc keow™ Yet the opinions put into print by someone who may historians attribute his downfall at| head of the institution whose budget ought to haye known better than to pub- Waterloo in large degree. amounts to two and. a half millions ing carefully for it, call 15 or 16 and tt will| try of her own. The Americans easily pro- be delivered to you by special messenger. Reg: led themselves with machinery, but for ister complaints before 8 o'clock. a time they lacked the century old skill and traditions of the Saxon operatives. Yet they sdon over came even this dis- advantage, During our inflation period | lish private correspondence. Evidently of dollars annually should have The folks next door may sym- : A they imported no less than 6,000 of our haver would have made a Demo- . Cees: ! some well-defined ideas on the sub- pathize when you complain of : A Business Convenience most highly skilled weavers, together | cratic vice presidential candidate with} Wheeler's Belated Purification |icct, Some of the great institu. a fault in our service = ie 4 with th families and their canary} some of the Dawes qualities that have Burton K. Wheeler, the man who is} "5 have done so much to unsettle ve There is just one person better than aj): 4. 7 ea hi " » thi 3 rages a 6ur ideas of education, With their ma etaon wit gilt edbe-eridt, and. that 4s birds. i Who was harme d by this pro-} made such a hit with the public. and ought not to be Senator from Mon- expanding range and distracting ar- > é tio} A person ‘who pays cash Powiwhatiiia our, gt ie TU mated Bios pen ————_ tana, and candidate for vice president] ray of subjects, that there 1s no need But neighbor—to neighbor pa ~ purchases, Unfortunately everybody is| fii" Symcred some thousands of indus: Turns on Wheeler Clared fora Te Ro nuist ticket, -de-|to return to the great onsentinis of complaints cannot correct ser- 2, not so situated that he can pay cash, be-} po iities, Not these workmen and their] George Remus, former “bootleg king,” the Geaioctanie so a Seen that kes A eharentae ice flaws re cause asa usual thing he depends upon families, who were thus given opportu-| 2° serving a sentence of two years. ip “long :aitice caked’ to does ane! ati ai ‘The teacher also has duties as.re- vi f \ pr some other pegson for the payment of] nity for work at wages which eemod| the federal prison at Atlanta under con- Tiedt Scaqimalecdinughe ona int sa lated to self. Certain things od goods or services at stated inter princely after their European axperi-| Yiction of bootlegging as the result of doh be nN EDN erest | should sustained. ‘One ts, the The frank outspoken, you-to- sa For instance the workman must await] ! No vhadh. ne aciae pate x at ae a prosecution instituted and vigorousl) Bt sot Ola Renats ieee kanes for Wall habit of study. The mind grows 4 BB ry! its. pay day, the merchant must await the es of the tree traderd zit insist | Pressed by the department of justice un hah he: Baca: Paha didate cate beat We vig) at ieee beanie ae ae ehe us complaint is _ what gets end of the month for the payment of a ‘nation can do itself no’ good| er Attorney General Daugherty, issued States meiaitorion the ‘Demde nti ticket and social duties. time should be action pes shares. accounts and so on all the way through the protection and upbuilding|# Statement SE ay a the ee es only two years ago? Was table ea found for regular and systematic % around, f its industri { | stitution on Friday of last week in which ; vs'tin study. Time should not be wasted. THghOteMiaa Spe ye al chasgecacs hes aon industries and the mainten. he alleges that his testimnoy before the deliver the people into the power of the 7 s own high standards of life | * counts at pay day times, and others pay} for the toiler, Wall Street plunderbund then? If. so, what evidence is there that he has under- gone such political purification in twen- ty-two months as would entitle him to pose as a deliverer of the people_from the power of the villainous gang to which Whatever your criticism or complaint, tell it to us not to your neighbors— Wheeler senate committee that he had paid Jess Smith certain amounts for im- munity was entirely false, and that it was given after a conference with Sena- tor Wheeler and other members of the Vermont Goes To the Polls their bills at the end of thirty days or! ‘The sole hope for more of comfort and at the time agreed, all goes well and} ease for the average man is in the in- everybody can meet his obligations and) crease of production., That can come the credit system functions properly and/ about only through the encouragement, to the satisfaction of all concerned. . m. ‘ ° : siti \ it| Ret the injury or destruction of produc-| committee in sympathy with him, upon|he now says he undertook to deliver ; —if you want something more a _ Credit is a seat biti esata but it) tive industry, As a producer the politic-| their assurance that they would secure] them as a Democratic candidate in 19227 For Primary than sympathy, er" is a. sane ence gy A Phot ee bs aE a ian who appeals to envy and class ha- tS aa from berkaee Renee states centage 0! J siness 5) tred t 1 sn stri i that he is now certain tha ese assur- ° \. Soe aoe <- done on credit and it could not be done ‘acne Mn eee ne ba ee ances were without justification, and Lines and Angles fj MONTE RLIEE, DS bbap te dave oe pay 73 otherwise because of its great yolume site he grades over 100 per cent. given only with a view to inducing him By TED OSBORNE attend iia EURETT SEe eae lik Tt means only one eee faith Ma If the United States is in the iron] to testify falsely. Remus declares that he The other day the opening of the polls this morn- f person has in anot ee, 1 Aah it ris grasp of monoply, as Senator LaFollette | never say or communicated with the late I asked dear ing for the biennial primary elec- J faith oe be Basineds ‘al at ba ealoue? and the Socialists generally declare, how] Jess Smith. Following the issuance of Gwendolyn. tiony The candidacy of a native oti solve: Therefore, credit must 3 js] does ti happen that there has been such| his statement Remus talked to news- At what age she son, Calvin’ Coolidge, for the presi- ly’ preserved and maintained that this], ye Fi “ ? “4 Though ; ot dency, has aroused citizens through- >t great business convenience be continued,| 2 ©normous increase in production, es-] paper men in the office of the warden of Thought a ‘young’ girl out the state to a high pitch of in- th olen ‘credit Ag /ananedioeisenared for | Pecially of the » commodities in which] the Atlanta prison and elaborated upon Should marry and she said: terest in politics, Political leaders . “ 's ny reason whatever, it entails a line of | S°called big business ‘takes a special| his statement, which wag made in affi- “Oh, about nineteen,” declared the primary vote will be : Com an : he difficulties and disappointments scarce-| MteTest? Monopoly thrives not on in-|davit form. > And I asked how old pada athe tM dN rie ed y, f c ly believable for one man has no means . sed production, be-] “According to the Remus statement.he She was and she said: grea rhesas oa pee ecl oe of knowing, who or what depends’ upon ° increased production necessarily | yas first approached at the federal pris- “Oh, about nineteen! ican the posed matiotial an his promtness in keeping his agreements | ™C8"8 inereased competition. The most She's not a‘designer, a . on by Harry Sterns, an attorney for the = strictly to the letter. dangerous of alt monopolies is the mon committee and Frank Vanderlip, who op- gt ek ly of power which the state Socialists 4 i » Credit is a favor extended to a person, ) 2PO'Y of erated what Vanderlip described as the| ‘ at the time he is unable to pay cash to| “ould vest in the government at Wash-| “detective department” vf the Brookhart Qn a close a transaction. Goods or services| ington. Politicalized industry controlled | committee, with forty investigators em-| — | Gosh contest has reflected its interest to the ite canaldates are _no Democratic contests. But T thik she has Designs LE’ SB wd age LAD HA eA i rps Sy by a vast federal bureaucracy would be qe 1s are delivered, with the implied, if not} > q icy W ployed. : mar “ nt, stated promise to pay at a eactatn time.| the most autocratic, tyrannical monop-| Remus states that the was_repeatedly Ste Hehe Nt HEDIS . * . s ive If a person appreciates the favor he| ly conceivable. approached by Gaston Means, star wit- a tien a ‘T'm getting too stout, e sh pays when the certain time rolls around SIE yates hess for the Brookhart committee, with | doctor, a want your advice. m1 AY a ay ob eyen if he is compelled to sacrifice in Power of Cor S offers to get the supreme court to re-| _Doctor—“Nothing. reduces flesh like 4 R: order to keep his word. In this way his TO: mMmMon Sense . verse his case. ‘The first offer was to do| Worry, 80 you just sit two hours a day e . ° ’ “yi credit is maintained, and opposite his} President, Coolidge places himself in| this for $250,000, and the second $125,000. and ‘think about’ the unpaid bill you owe in a mountainous wil erness > name in the books of th vith whom he] excellent company when he lays stress} Remus states that he did not. believe | me: 4 p deals he finds “A No. This means de-| on common sense. The statesmen whom| Means could effect this result, and there- ——— os ae mi pendability and worthiness. It means in| the world honors, the legislators who] fore ‘refused to pay him. Teacher—“What is the function of iron P 5 na short that a man keeps his word, which,| solved problems, the ministers who best] It is said that other witnesses before| in the blood?” 8 is the highest honor that man could de-| filled their pupits, the monarchs who| the Brookhart committee have made af-| Bright Pupil—“It- makes the finger r sire to attain in business circles. held the gratitude of nations, live in his-| fidavits that they were induced to make | nails.” = Business people have other designa-| tory for the same qualities that are| false statements by offers of influence aes ag tions by which they identify those whoj shown in prosperous farmers and judic-| and money during the senate inquisition . HER OWN FAULT a are less prompt in settlements, on down| ious trustees of estates. ‘| but that on account of their sympathy| _He—“I can’t understand Betty reject- i to those unworthy of credit or trust of] Undoubtedly men have won scientific] with the conduct of the investigation the | ing me last night.” * any sort. triumphs by ignoring the surface com-| metropolitan press has refused to give] She—“Never mind. | You'll soon get Jt is a bad state of affairs when credit | mon sense view of matters and yentur-| them attention. over it.” is abused. And for that reason the per-| ing on speculation. It was a bold specu-| John W. Dayis, Democratic presiden-| He—“Oh, it’s not that, but I can’t help rg Son to whom credit is extended should] lation that the world was round and a| tial candidate, has been relying on the | feeling deuced sorry for her” ‘| = plan and calculate to, preserve it as he| bolder one-that the earth went round the| Remus testimony, according to his pub: n | © would his personal hoor for that in the] sun, but in time common sense fell into| lished speeches to maintain his charge Society n -” ey ~ final analysis is what credit is. line. The art of government does not call] of “dishonesty and corruption” against Is tho a b = = Local business people have reached] for discoveries; it calls for history, for] the‘national administration. Mother of : zt i =the point of calling public attention to] prudence for tness, for the home- id Pears Conventions. Inman Brothers of Wilkes-Barre, Pay 1 the laxness with which credit is regard-| ly yirtues that keep the rich family from Famous Phrase : operate three 5-ton Pierce - Arrow trucks, r ed. There must be a reform, if credit is| losing a fortune and keep the poor fam- By ELDEN SMALL “Which of you had the most sport ont These trucks cover practically one hundred ct to continue. Anyway it is much easier to| ily out of the almshouse. YON See 2 shooting rabbits today?” “The rabbits.” Our political vocabulary has its own miles per day, carrying capacity loads con- familiar words and phrases, universally sisting of “mine props” 16 to 20 feet long. > obligation with honesty of purpose] Once in the long annals of civilization ck of it than it is to evade it by alibis] a king wrote a*book that became a trea- fi ; y 1 Getting these logs to the mines is a test of be and subterfuges, sure for all lands. Under the midnight aoe and pega etitn foe Peanere UNCLE HOOK SAYS sheer endurance for any motor truck. Up ~ f : ELE AS sun, along the equator, in. both hemis- fHocsl ae nee Te Mf sieethe * <a inti “Too many fellers pray on their knees beyond traveled roads—along narrow, aban- ® Trdustriali and Palitical pheres, that book is a common posses-|scthinpneas, but of the fae memory | ot Sunday; and’ prey on their neighbors doned trails—up steep grades—then into : ndustrial and Politica’ sion. The Proverbs of Solomon are known | srt ees sees S atthy Gites the’ rest 0’ th’ week.” : the heart of the wilderness Pierce- Arrow be STAY and quoted by myriads who are not en- peeps 4 . f over road- tt Reni detive Efficiency A 1ined by paradoxes or dazzled by fal- unusually apt and often humorous way Fiucks must go, pick inal enres, ” 4 idustr 7 Magazine Editor—“You made a ball breakin your novel. You tell of a ter- rible snowstorm your hero encountered in the tropics. Don’t you know they never have snow there?” Author—“Of course I know. it. That’s i is the customary 1" target of the destructive type of politi- ‘ cian the world over, yet, despite the in terruption of the World War, the prog. ress of industry during the past ter years has been greater, possibly, than of compressing a great deal of meaning into a single word or curt phrase, or else their intimate connection with some notable person or deed or situation, When a politician or an aspirant for Tn his homely saying the king of bodied the experience of the S 1 the trader, the life of the ge and the life ofthe city, the hap- penings of the court and the camp. Be- less ground, Then, with a full load aboard, they make thé long, precipitous descent. Could brakes > be asked to serve more convincingly? Could conditions be found that would test more Dual Valve HEAVY DUTY MOTOR TRUCKS : * * political favor starts out to look after \ Chassis Sizes: 2-ton 3-ton 4-ton 5-ton severely the mettle of a motor truck? = that of politics throughout the world. Aae Rar ase ee Maire ey his campaign or todo some of the es. beanie ary ae So Sepa icles apm fied 4 "i ‘ Z Fe te ©) From 1913 to 1923 the output of hydro-| Richard's maxims; before Defoe and be | Sehtial preliminary things to bring him 9 JOR Res Tractors: 3-ton 5-ton 754-ton Thesame qualitiesthatkeep Pierce-Arrow electric power increased throughout the] fore Bunyan, the power of every day | SUCcess; or to talk things over with oth- OF COURSE Chassis prices range from $3300 to $5400 trucks moving under such severe conditions world 500 per cent, that of petrolenm | 2) ce Waa “illumined “be Gieiie inepitn ers of local influence it is said “So Freddy is married reg xin: B Sixcylinder Motor Bus chassis, $4600 and $4750 will make Pierce-Arrow trucks a profitable ; 270 percent, that of coul 104 per cent,| tion i ~ | “out looking over his fences.” saa widow, I hear.” Lee fh re {. 0. b. Buffalo, N. Y. investment in your business. We wil] gladly while the incrensed efficiency in use of] Xowhere in this country are the Prov | th suggestion that it may hay Ves he OW] vo sae sti op 2 4 show you how silent, powerful Pierce-Atrow ‘ hoth oil and coal still further increased | ory of. Bolommeni better Mevdvri than in| OF in some farming or stock-raising childre e. sp ta be Bs seit e six Terms if desired trucks will serve you, the service of these two forms of fuell the old famnlouses of Now England, | 8¢ction, the origin of the expression gen-| Cil/dren ranging from two to fourteen : to humanity. The increase in production years of age. When they line up they're of aluminum during the dec: regular steps.” “Naturally, they’re his step-children.” Calvin Cooli > ang | erally is unknown. Je.ending | poy ot oe ee ary nem as 0 boy ad) TT ovisso. ghenGrant was @ caidineis 1923 was 71 per cent, of copper 115 per s 3 for a third presidential term, some of : ee. fora, thine prseldential term, ‘some. -THE-‘KUMPF MOTOR CAR COMPANY The number of aeroplanes increased Patriotic But Indiscreet nois, There also lived Elihu B. Wash-| Sunday School Teacher—“What must 1g SEER WYO. © DENVER COLORADO SPRINGS ten fold during that perio, the number | Panic, does not begin to describe the|burne, nationally known and respected| You do before everything else to haye EB Went Midwent: Ave. Twelfth Ave. and Acoma 121 East Bijou of automobiles 1 i fol rh orld’s mer-| condition Democratic campaign man-| Republican leader. He was countett on your sins forgiven ??** agers are in bec: Bright Little Girl—Commit the si use Mrs, Clem Shayer, by @ie Grant enthusiasts, but many dele.